I have received inquiries about the trip to Kansai area many times. So I make a basic itinerary that includes Kansai area, such as Kyoto, Osaka, Kobe and Nara only. This is 7 days itinerary. But you can shorten or extend as you can.
Now I would like to tell you the best route and most economical deals about this trip.
Day 1 – Kansai airport (KIX) to Kyoto
Kansai One Pass and Haruka one way trip to Kyoto at 4,600 yen.
Overnight around JR Kyoto station
If you arrive in Kyoto early, you can visit somewhere around Kyoto station. Fushimi Inari is only 5 minutes away from Kyoto station. Kyoto Tower is just located in front of Kyoto station. You can use Kansai One Pass to get there.
Day 2 and 3 – Sightseeing in Kyoto
There are several deals available. I recommend you to use both Kansai One Pass and Kyoto City Bus Pass. Kansai One Pass covers city bus too but Kansai One Pass does not give you unlimited travel. It offers only convenience. On the other hand, Kyoto City Bus Pass is sold at 600 yen for one day. You can take a bus as many as you want. You can get the worth of it by only 3 rides. You can use Kansai One Pass only for taking a train and/or a subway.
Kyoto City Bus and Subway Pass (Kyoto Sightseeing Card) is also available. But this does not cover other railways, such as JR, Hankyu, Keihan railways. You will take various trains in Kyoto. Please see the link below to find the train route in Kyoto:
You can get anywhere in downtown Kyoto by bus. It is possible to visit all places only by city bus. However city bus is always crowded and the traffic in Kyoto has been very heavy in these days. I recommend you to take a train or a subway as much as you can.
Kansai One Pass and Bus Pass are the best combination for sightseeing in Kyoto, in my opinion.
Day 4 – Trip to Nara and transfer to Osaka
Visit Nara on the way to Namba, Osaka from Kyoto.
You can take either Kintetsu Railway or JR to get Nara. Both trains depart from Kyoto station. But Kintetsu railway’s Nara station is better location. It is 1 km closer to most of tourist spots in Nara than JR Nara station.
After Nara, you can take either JR or Kintetsu to get Osaka. Please see the link below to find the route to Nara:
Day 5 – Trip to Kobe and Himeji from Osaka
You may use JR Kansai Area Pass one day at 2,200 yen if you book it online in advance. If you buy it online, you have to exchange the pass at Shin-Osaka, Osaka, Kyoto or Kansai airport.
You can purchase this pass at many major stations in downtown Osaka but the price is a bit higher. There is other trains to Kobe and Himeji, like Hanshin railway. But JR is the fastest to get Himeji. Please see the post, How to access to Himeji and Kobe from Osaka to get the details.
Day 6 – Sightseeing in Osaka
There are lots of deals available in Osaka. Please see the link below to find the deal:
How to choose the pass for sightseeing in Osaka
Day 7 – Osaka to Kansai airport (KIX)
If you want to take Haruka again, you can purchase Haruka discount ticket. This discount ticket is available for overseas tourist who has ICOCA or Kansai One Pass only.
ICOCA and Haruka, Kansai One Pass and Haruka
Otherwise you can choose other deal in the link below:
How to choose the deal for trip to/from KIX
I hope this sample helps you to build your trip plan.
Comments
Hi Takeshi,
So this is the right page 😉
I’m planning to buy kansai thru pass n use it from kix to kyoto, is it possible? Or stick to ur sample using icocaharuka?
Day 1. Arrive from tokyo at 11am, from KIX go to kyoto (kansai thru pass 3day/ icoca haruka singletrip?). Fushimi inari. Check in hotel. Kyoto city tour (ktp?) – any recommended place to visit at night in kyoto?
Day 2. Check out. Kyoto city tour (bus pass 500¥?). go to osaka at night (by shinkansen).
Day 3. Trip to nara and kobe (ktp?)
Day 4. Trip to himeji (ktp?)
Day 5. Osaka tour (OAP)
Day 6. Osaka tour (OAP)
Day 7. Check out at 11am. Go to KIX (icocaharuka single trip)
Any other revised or recommendation for this itin?
Cheers
Hi Owidya,
You can use Kansai thru pass on day 1. But you have to change the trains twice at least from KIX to Kyoto. The route is the following:
Kansai airport (Nankai railway) Namba (Osaka subway Midousuji line) Yodoyabashi (Keihan railway) Fushimi Inari
In the cost, Kansai thru pass is convenient choice. But Haruka gives you direct access to Kyoto from KIX. But you cannot take Haruka or any other JR trains by Kansai thru pass. You can choose whichever you want. Please see the links to find more info about the route.
https://jprail.com/travel-informations/tips-for-japan-rail-pass/how-to-transfer-among-kyoto-osaka-and-kobe-compare-japan-railway-and-private-lines.html
https://jprail.com/destinations/kansai-area/guide-to-take-trains-in-kyoto-how-to-choose-the-best-route-by-train-to-get-the-major-spots.html
Probably Gion area is a good to visit in the evening.
If you take Shinkansen from Kyoto to Shin-Osaka, you have to pay at least 860 yen extra (non reserved seat fee) on top of base fare for sucha a short ride, 13 minutes. If you really want to have Shinkansen experience, you can go for it.
Other deals are okay.
Cheers,
Takeshi / JPRail.com
Hi Takeshi,
A few clarifications,
Day 5 – Base is Shinsaibashi Hotel — Shin-Kobe Ropeway (Nunobiki)– Restaurant near Sannomiya Station — Dotonbori–Namba Park– back to hotel
Day 6 – Shinsaibashi Hotel — shopping at Shinsaibashisuji, Kuromon, Dogusujiya
Day 7 – Shinsaibashi Hotel — KIX
Q1: Instead of getting a Hanshin 1day tourist pass for Day 5, can I instead get the Kansai Thru Pass 2 days and use it for Day 5 and Day 6. With Kansai Thru Pass I will be getting a discount in the entrance of Nunobiki. Is my decision economical and wise?
Q2: For Day 7, you suggested that I get the one way Haruka Limited Express. Is there a pass (express train) that will start from Shinsaibashi?
Again, thanks for the assistance.
Louie
Hi Louie,
I don’t think Kansai thru pass is a right choice. Kansai thru pass is not paid off.
You may use subway and Nankai deal. You can start using it from Shinsaibashi. You can purchase it at the vending machine.
http://www.howto-osaka.com/en/ticket/ticket/chikatoku.html
Cheers,
Takeshi / JPRail.com
Hi Takeshi,
1) In this 7d sampleitineraries, which transportation pass I need to purchase in advance via online? Prefer Osaka amazing pass, the rest same as per your sample.
If not purchase online, all passes can be bought at Kansai airport on the first day we reach??
Thank you in advance for your kind advice.
2) if buy icoca-and-haruka ROUND TRIP ticket, why still have to incur the cost below from Kyoto to Osaka?
Or follow the itinerary below, I should buy one way ticket from KIX to Kyoto instead??? Plus cost below
Visit Nara on the way to Namba, Osaka from Kyoto.
Kyoto to Nara 710 yen
Nara to JR-Namba 560 yen
Total 1230 yen
3) on my first day, we will reach KIX around 9am, and then heading to Kyoto directly. Please advise the estimated time to reach Kyoto and roughly how many tourist spot we can visit on the day? Appreciate if could advise some places which suit the timing
4) Kyoto sightseeing cards cover both bus and subways in Kyoto?
Hi Apple,
1. Yes. Please see the link below:
https://jprail.com/sample-itineraries/airport-access/kansai-kix/kansai-airport-transportation-guide-find-info-about-station-ticket-airport-bus-and-high-speed-ferry.html
But ICOCA and Haruka was remodeled. Now you need to have one way to Kyoto. And only Haruka discount ticket from Osaka to KIX. This cannot be purchased in KIX.
https://jprail.com/travel-informations/other-rail-passes/rail-pass-for-visitors/icoca-and-haruka-ticket-very-flexible-and-good-deal-for-tourist-who-stay-in-kansai.html
You may use other passes from Osaka to KIX.
https://jprail.com/sample-itineraries/airport-access/kansai-kix/how-to-choose-the-deals-for-access-tofrom-kansai-airport.html
2. In the itinerary above, it includes trip to Fushimi. Please check the itinerary above again.
3. It’s hard to say. It depends on how busy custom, immigration, ticket window. You will spend at least one hour to clear custom and immigration. In these days, Kansai airport is very popular and busy. I have seen a long line up at the ticket window, I have no idea how long you will wait for. The only thing I can say now that you will spend 80 minutes to get Kyoto from KIX. If everything will be very smooth, you will be Kyoto station around 12:30 in my estimation.
It’s also hard to say how many places you can visit. I cannot find how long you will take to get Kyoto station at this point. And also it depends on which place you will go. In my sample itinerary, I suggest Fushimi or/and Uji. Because these places are very accessible.
4. Yes.
Cheers,
Takeshi / JPRail.com
Hi Takeshi,
Do you have the details on how to use the 2 days Kyoto sightseeing cards as follow the tourist places in your itineraries?
Thanks.
Hi Apple,
I don’t have the detailed info because there are so many bus routes. As I mentioned in the post, just try to use subway as much as possible because it’s faster. The following links show you subway and bus route:
http://www2.city.kyoto.lg.jp/koho/eng/access/subway.html
http://www2.city.kyoto.lg.jp/koho/eng/access/img/pdf/ENG150321(map)0309.pdf
Cheers,
Takeshi / JPRail.com
Hi Takeshi,
thanks for the link given, I will need some time to research on the routes.
may I know where can I buy the Kyoto sightseeing card?
Hi Apple,
Please see the link below:
http://www2.city.kyoto.lg.jp/koho/eng/access/transport.html#cvcrd
You will find some information centers at the bottom of this page. You can purchase it at these locations.
Cheers,
Takeshi / JPRail.com
Hi Takeshi,
I plan to buy ICOCA & Haruka (KIX to Kyoto) and kyoto sightseeing card 1 day.
Day1 – KIX–> Kyoto station to Fushimi Inari
Kyoto station (walk 6min) –> Kyoto west exit (JR Nara line) (3min) –> Tofukuji (4 min) –> Keihan Main Line Sub –> Fushimini Inari
Q1) Understand that JR Nara line is not cover by sightseeing card, but it can use ICOCA credit right. Pls advise if “Keihan Main Line Sub” to fushimi above cover by Kyoto sightseeing pass?
Fushimi inari to Nijo castle
Fushimi (Kyoto), Kintetsu Kyoto Line for Int’l Kaikan (150 yen 2 min) –>direct connect to Takeda (Kyoto) stay on same train; Kyoto City subway Karasuma line for Int’l Kaikan (12 min)–> Karasumaoike –> Kyoto city subway Tozai for Uzumasatenjingawa (middle carriage) (260 yen) (2min) –> Nijojo-mae exit 1 –> walk 250m/ 4 min (total 27 min; 410 yen; 1 change)
Q2) Pls advise which line/ station above is not cover by sightseeing pass? if not can I use ICOCA?
Day 2: Okamoto Kimono –> Kiyomizu-dera Temple –> Yasaka/ Gion Shrine –> Kinkaku-ji temple- Golden Pavilion –> back to Okamoto Kimono to return the costumes before 6.30pm
Q3) is the day 2 itineraries make sense? is it far travel from 1 place to anther??
Q4) I will use bus to travel all the places in day2. pls let me know if either of the places can reach via subway by sightseeing card.
Hi Apple,
1. Yes. You can use ICOCA to get Fushimi.
2. Kyoto sightseeing card covers only subway and city bus. Keiham, Kintetsu, JR are not covered.
The best way to get Nijo from Fushimi is JR line from Inari to Nijo via Kyoto. Please see the link below to find the coverage:
https://jprail.com/destinations/kansai-area/guide-to-take-trains-in-kyoto-how-to-choose-the-best-route-by-train-to-get-the-major-spots.html
3. Kiyomizu and Yasaka are located in same area. But Kinkakuji is not very closed. You have to take subway and bus for at least 30 minutes. If you are okay with traveling and walking with wearing Kimono, you can go for this plan.
4. There is no places to get by subway only. You have to take bus and/or subway.
Cheers,
Takeshi / JPRail.com
Hi Takeshi,
thanks for your prompt response.
Q1) The best way to get Nijo from Fushimi is JR line from Inari to Nijo via Kyoto.
do you meant to take the JR DIRECT line from “Inari” station to “Nijo” station”? or we need to transfer at Kyoto station?
Q2) from Yasaka shrine to Kinkakuji
pls advise if I can take direct bus # 12; 59; 102; 204 ?
or I have to take subway from Yasaka shrine to subway’s Kitaoji staion, and then take bus?
thank you for your kind advise.
Hi Apple,
1. You need to change the trains at Kyoto.
2. Actually I don’t remember bus number. But subway and bus is usually faster than only bus. Traffic in Kyoto is always heavy.
Cheers,
Takeshi / JPRail.com
Hi Takeshi,
Q1) I plan to travel to NARA from Kyoto (Kintetsu Kyoto station to Kintetsu Nara Station), please advise if this is the best way? do u know how much is the fare?
Q2) Kofukuji temple. Nara Park, Daibutsu (big statues of Buddha) and Kasuga Taisha shrine are within walking distance from Kintetsu Nara station right? can we drop our luggage at Kintensu Nara station?
Q3) After travel all the NARA places above, how to travel to Nankai-Namba station?
Hi Apple,
1. Kintetsu is the best way to get Nara form Kyoto. Please find the fare hyperdia:
https://jprail.com/travel-informations/basic-informations/timetable-and-reservation/hyperdia-perfect-guide-train-timetable-and-route-search-engine.html
2. Yes. There are coin lockers in the station but large size is always tough to find.
3. You can take Kintetsu railway to get Osaka-Namba from Kintetsunara. Osaka-Nmaba is almost same place as Nankai Namba.
https://jprail.com/travel-informations/basic-informations/station-information/namba-stations-guide-how-to-change-the-trains-among-nankai-kintetsu-hanshin-subway-and-jr.html
Cheers,
Takeshi / JPRail.com
Hi Takeshi,
Here’s my itinerary. Kindly comment on the feasibility and correct combinations.
Day 1 – KIX — Kyoto Hotel
Upon arriving at KIX, I will buy a) ICOCA and Haruka Kyoto one way which cost 3600Yen and b) Haruka Tennoji one way for Day 7 which cost 1,100 Yen.
Upon arriving at Kyoto Station, I will buy Kyoto Sightseeing 2 day pass which cost 2,000Yen.
Q1: Can I buy Haruka Tennoji one way on the same date that I bought the ICOCA and Haruka Kyoto? Is there no expiration?
Q2: Can I buy the Kyoto Sightseeing Pass a day before I use it?
Q3: Are the prices of the passes that I listed correct? I am working on a budget so I want everything accounted for.
Day 2 – Kyoto Hotel — Fushimi Inari — Kiyomizudera Temple — Gion and Pontocho
Day 3 – Kyoto Hotel — Nishiki Market — Nijo Castle — Kinkakuji Temple — Arashiyama
For Fushimi Inari – I will use ICOCA and have a remaining balance of 1,220 for it. For the other tourist spots for Day 2 and 3, I will use my Kyoto Sightseeing 2 day pass.
Q4: Does the Kyoto Sightseeing Pass give discounts on entrance fees? If yes, where can I check if the tourists spots I picked are included and how much discount I will get.
Q5: Did I make the right combinations? Any suggestions?
5a) Fushimi/ Kiyomizudera / Gion / Pontocho?
5b) N ishiki / Nijo / Arashiyama?
Day 4 Depart Kyoto hotel. Leave bags in Nara. Go to Nara Deer Park. Then pick up bags. Check in at Shinsaibashi Hotel. Osaka Castle — Umeda Sky Bldg. — Dotombori
Q6: Where do you suggest I leave my bags? In JR Nara Station or Kintetsu Nara Station? Which between the 2 stations have big coin lockers?
Q7: I prefer to go down to Kintetsu Nara since it is just 5 minute walk to the park. Can I use ICOCA if I go down to this station? If yes, how much do I need to add if I have a remaining balance of 1,220 Yen?
Q8: Can I use ICOCA from Kintetsu Nara to Shinsaibashi Station? Again, how much do I need to add?
Q9: I will buy Enjoy Eco Card pass. Will I get discounts in the entrance fees to Osaka Castle and Umeda Sky Bldg? By how much?
Day 5 – Shinsaibashi Hotel — Shin-Kobe Ropeway — Sannomiya (Kobe Beef Restaurant) — back to Shinsaibashi Hotel
Q10: Is there a 1 day pass that will cover my transportation from Osaka to Kobe? What do you call this pass? How much is it?
Day 6 – Shinsaibashi Hotel to KIX
Q11: I will use my Haruka Tennoji one way which I bought in Day 1, am I right?
Q12: I still have to get a single fare Shinsaibashi to Tennoji, correct?
Q13: Get my ICOCA deposit in KIX, correct?
Sorry to ask so many questions. Will really appreciate and wait for your reply. And will welcome suggestions. Thanks in advance.
Louie
Hi Louie,
Q1: Can I buy Haruka Tennoji one way on the same date that I bought the ICOCA and Haruka Kyoto? Is there no expiration?
No, you can’t, Tennoji-KIX Haruka discount ticket is sold at Tennoji. You cannot purchase it at KIX.
Q2: Can I buy the Kyoto Sightseeing Pass a day before I use it?
Yes. Once you start using, it start automatically.
Q3: Are the prices of the passes that I listed correct? I am working on a budget so I want everything accounted for.
Yes.
Q4: Does the Kyoto Sightseeing Pass give discounts on entrance fees? If yes, where can I check if the tourists spots I picked are included and how much discount I will get.
Yes.
http://www.city.kyoto.lg.jp/kotsu/cmsfiles/contents/0000028/28378/0223omote.pdf
Ask details when you purchase it if you are not sure about this PDF.
Q5: Did I make the right combinations? Any suggestions?
Nishiki market is closed to Gion. It’s located near Kawaramachi station. It supposed to be combined with 5a.
Q6: Where do you suggest I leave my bags? In JR Nara Station or Kintetsu Nara Station? Which between the 2 stations have big coin lockers?
I think Kintetsu is better. Kintetsu Nara is closer to temples in Nara than JR. Actually I have never counted the number of lockers.
Q7: I prefer to go down to Kintetsu Nara since it is just 5 minute walk to the park. Can I use ICOCA if I go down to this station? If yes, how much do I need to add if I have a remaining balance of 1,220 Yen?
Q8: Can I use ICOCA from Kintetsu Nara to Shinsaibashi Station? Again, how much do I need to add?
You can use ICOCA. Please use Hyperdia to find the fare.
https://jprail.com/travel-informations/basic-informations/timetable-and-reservation/hyperdia-perfect-guide-train-timetable-and-route-search-engine.html
Q9: I will buy Enjoy Eco Card pass. Will I get discounts in the entrance fees to Osaka Castle and Umeda Sky Bldg? By how much?
Yes. 10% discount for Sky Bldg, 100 yen discount for Osaka castle.
Q10: Is there a 1 day pass that will cover my transportation from Osaka to Kobe? What do you call this pass? How much is it?
There is no deals to cover all part of this trip. Only Hashin tourist pass covers Namba – Sannomiya
http://www.kansai360.net/en/ticket02/
Q12: I still have to get a single fare Shinsaibashi to Tennoji, correct?
You need to purchase it at Tennoji.
Q13: Get my ICOCA deposit in KIX, correct?
You can do it at Tennoji too. When you leave Tennoji, you don’t need to use ICOCA any more.
Cheers,
Takeshi / JPRail.com
Good day, Takeshi!
First of all, THANK YOU for your very informative posts! Highly appreciated!
My family of 4 are travelling to Kansai June1-11. We had been doing our homework, doing researches & started planning for our trip. We came out with this itinerary.
Day 1- 8pm – arrival KIX
Airbnb lodging near Awaza Station. Our base during the entire duration of our trip.
DAY 2 (Thu) 6/2
– USJ
Day 3 (Fri) 6/3 * OSAKA*
-The Momofuku Ando Instant Ramen Museum
– Umeda Sky Building
– Grand Front Osaka
– HEP Five
Day 4 (Sat) 6/6 *HIMEJI* (optional)
– Himeji Castle
– Kokoen Garden
Day 5 (Sun) 6/5
*KYOTO*
– Nijo Castle
– Kinkaku-ji Temple (Golden Pavilion)
– Kyoto Imperial Palace
*NARA*
– Kofuku-ji Temple
– Todai-ji
– Nara Deer Park
– Kasuga Shrine
Day 6 (Mon) 6/6 *OSAKA*
Minami (Namba)
– Shinsaibashi
– Dotonbori
– Namba Parks
Day 7 (Tue) 6/7 *KYOTO*
– Fushimi-Inari-Taisha Shrine
– Tofuku-ji Temple
– Pontocho District
– Gion Corner
Day 8 (Wed) 6/8 *OSAKA*
-Osaka Castle
-Osaka Castle Park
-Osaka Museum of History
-Dotonbori
Day 9 (Thu) 6/9 *KYOTO*
Arashimaya District
– Togetsukyo Bridge
– Bamboo Groves
– Monkey Park
– Nishiki Market
Day 10 (Fri) 6/10 *OSAKA*
Osaka Bay Area
– Osaka Aquarium Kaiyukan
– Tempozan Ferries Wheel
– Kuromon Ichiban Shopping
Day 11 (Sat) 6/11
– Shinsaibashi
– Dotonbori
Leave for airport*
Please feel free to make suggestions / comments. And please help us with which kind of pass suits our plan.
Can we use the OSAKA AMAZING PASS in any one of those days?
Sorry for my very long comment. Thank you so much for your time.
Best regards,
Ann
Hi Ann,
I think you will find the solution for your trip at the link below:
https://jprail.com/sample-itineraries/7days/how-to-build-the-itinerary-and-choose-the-deals-for-osaka-stay-5-to-7-days.html
If you visit 3 or more attractions on the list, amazing pass will work. But as far as I take a look, it’s not enough to use Amazing pass. Eco card (subway pass) is better choice. But Ramen museum is not in subway coverage. You need to add the fare to take Hankyu railway.
Cheers,
Takeshi / JPRail.com
Thanks a lot, Takeshi for the quick reply.
1) Can you pls. comment on our Kyoto-Nara tour on day Day5? Is it ok? Nara with Central Kyoto?
2) What pass can we use for the “Kyoto” Days? The “Kansai Area Pass”, the “Kyoto Sightseeing Day Pass” etc. etc.
Thanks Takeshi! With you around, I believe our Kansai trip will be STRESS FREE!
Cheers,
Ann
Hi Ann,
I think you should visit Nara on day 7. Fushimi Inari is much easier to combine with Nara.
Kansai thru pass is the best choice to get Kyoto and/or Nara.
https://jprail.com/travel-informations/other-rail-passes/rail-pass-for-residents/how-to-use-kansai-thru-pass-compare-pass-and-single-fare.html
https://jprail.com/travel-informations/other-rail-passes/rail-pass-for-residents/kansai-thru-pass-sample-itineraries.html
Cheers,
Takeshi / JPRail.com
Thanks a lot, Takeshi!
I enjoy making itineraries but I am not good in navigation or directions. Like until now, I am still having a hard time differentiating the many “PASSes”. Pls. kindly bear with me.
1) So its Fushimi-inari Shrine + Nara on Day 7 using KANSAI THRU PASS, right?
2) From Osaka Awaza station, is it better to visit Fushimi-inari first? Or Nara?
3) Can you suggest what Day can be combined with Day 5 (Nijo Castle) so as to save time?
4) Can we use the JR 7 day pass in this type of itinerary?
5) Can we squeeze in TOKYO DISNEY SEA to our itinerary? or maybe we can remove Himeji?
Thank you so much, Takeshi, for helping out. Thanks for your time & patience in answering my quieries.
Cheers!
Ann
Hi Ann,
1. Yes.
2. Doesn’t matter. You can go first either place.
3. I recommend you to keep one full day for Kyoto only. There are many places to see.
4. JR Pass is too expensive.
5. It’s very far. You have to take subway to Umeda, JR local train to Shin-Osaka, Shinkansen to Tokyo and local train to Maihama. It takes at least 3.5 hours for one way. If you really want to visit there, you have to give up Himeji or other one full day. And also you need to have JR pass 7 days. Just round trip cost is almost same as JR pass 7 days.
Cheers,
Takeshi / JPRail.com
Howdy, Takeshi!
Thanks for the suggestions
I read in one of your posts that Arahiyama District can be combined with Northern Kyoto?
1) that include Nijo Castle & Golden Pavilion, right?
1) If we travel at a medium to slow pace, is it possible to visit Arashiyama-Northern Kyoto in one day, and
Fushimi-inari – Nara in another day?
Or there wont be enough time & a separate day is needed?
2) On which day can we add Pontocho District?
3) Which day for Gion corner?
4) Kansai Thru Pass for both days, right?
Thank you!
Cheers!
Ann
Hi Ann,
1) Right.
1) Yes
2, 3) Either day. Gion and Pontocho are located near by. You can access these places from either Fushimi or Northern Kyoto.
4) Yes
Cheers,
Takeshi / JPRail.com
Hi Takeshi.
For transfer from KIX to Namba to Awaza & Vice-versa, which type of ticket will you suggest?
1) ICOCA & HARUKA
2) Kanku Tokuwari Rapi:t Ticket
3) others
Pls tell me why?
Thank you!
Hi Ann,
If you want most affordable deal, Kansai Chikatoku ticket (Osaka City Subway to Kansai int’l Airport) is the best. If you want to take limited express Rapi:t, Kanku Tokuwari Rapi:t Ticket + single fare to Awaza is cheaper than Kansai Chikatoku ticket + limited express surcharge.
ICOCA and Haruka is okay. But you have to change the trains twice, at Tennoji and Bentencho, if you use this deal. If you want to have ICOCA card, you can go for
Cheers,
Takeshi / JPRail.com
You suggested the KANSAI THRU PASS for my Kyoto Tour Days.
I noticed that in this post, you suggested using the KYOTO SIGHTSEEING CARD for the 2 day Kyoto tour.
Both cards can be used for Kyoto city bus & subways. Pls tell me the differences between the two!
Thanks much:
Hi Ann,
In this post, the location to stay is Kyoto. But you stay in Osaka, don’t you?
Kansai thru pass covers the trip between Osaka and Kyoto. Kyoto sightseeing card covers only subway and bus. If you use this deal, you need to add Kyoto-Osaka round trip fare. I checked your trip plan and recommended Kansai thru pass.
Please don’t mix up sightseeing from Kyoto and from Osaka.
Cheers,
Takeshi / JPRail.com
Wow! Thank you so much for the detailed explanation, Takeshi. I learned a lot from you! Thank you for your patience in replying to my quieries.
Best regards,
Ann
No worries, Ann.
Cheers,
Takeshi / JPRail.com
Hi Takeshi.
It‘s me again. Been doing lots of researching lately for my Kansai trip
The Ramen museum needs a single fare ticket for the Hankyu Line.
1) Which place is better to combine with Ramen Museum: Kita Umeda area or Osaka Castle area?
2) Do you think the ENJOY ECO CARD is still the more economical card to use that specific day even if we cant use it in the Ramen Museum portion of our trip?
Thanks a lot, Takeshi! You have been very helpful to us.
Cheers!
Ann
Hi Ann,
1. Umeda
Because you will take Hankyu at Umeda.
2. It depends on your plan after/before ramen museum. You have to make sure how many trips by subway you will make. Roughly if you take subway 4 trips of more, it’s usually paid off.
Check the fare at hyperdia and you can compare too.
https://jprail.com/travel-informations/basic-informations/timetable-and-reservation/hyperdia-perfect-guide-train-timetable-and-route-search-engine.html
Cheers,
Takeshi / JPRail.com
Cheers,
Takeshi / JPRail.com
Thanks again, Takeshi.
I came across another route from Kansai Airport to Awaza. Depending on the time we will be out of the airport, we might take this route,
Kansai Airport – Tengachaya – Sakaisujihommachi – Awaza
1) What type of pass can be used for this route?
2) With regards to Osaka Aquarium Kaniyukan, will you suggest purchasing the OSAKA KAIYU TICKET for the day we tour the Bay Area?
I came across the counterpart of the Enjoy Eco Card, the OSAKA VISITORS‘ TICKET. This is Not sold in Japan but only in 3 other countries, one of which is Taiwan, my home country.
3) Do you suggest we purchase this OVT here in Taiwan at 550yen as compared to the 800yen Eco Card purchased in Japan?
Thank you again, Takeshi.
I feel that I am beginning to enjoy the planning process for our Japan trip, Honestly, I really learned a lot from you
Cheers,
Ann
Hi Ann,
1. There is no deal to cover this. I think I have recommended to use Kansai Chikatoku ticket.
http://www.howto-osaka.com/en/ticket/ticket/chikatoku.html
But if you use this, you have to change the train at Namba. I don’t understand why you want to take this route, Kansai Airport – Tengachaya – Sakaisujihommachi – Awaza. If you change the train at Namba, you need to change it only once.
2. Yes.
3. Yes.
Cheers,
Takeshi / JPRail.com
Hello Takeshi!
In my opinion, no trip to Japan is complete without riding its world famous bullet train, a.k.a. Shinkansen
I think we can have this Shinkansen experience during our trip to Himeji.
All my questions pertain to Himeji.
1) What type of pass will we use if:
a) we plan to ride shinkansen to Himeji?
b) we plan to take JR trains to Himeji?
c) can we take the train going to Himeji then take Shinkansen going back to Osaka?
2) what pass to use during the first leg of the trip which is the Subway part?
3) what pass to use for the JR local train part?
4) Based on my itinerary, what other days can we take the Shinkansen, aside from Himeji.
Thanks a lot.
Cheers,
Ann
Hi Ann,
I don’t remember your plan because I have received more than 20 inquiries per day. Please show me it.
Cheers,
Takeshi / JPRail.com
Hi there, Takeshi.
So here goes my planned itinerary. I inserted the passes to be used, as you suggested.
JAPAN ITINERARY OSAKA-KYOTO-NARA-KOBE-HIMEJI
Day 1 (Wed) 6/1
8:00pm – Arrival – Kansai International Airport, Terminal 1
The subway station nearest our Airbnb apartment is AWAZA station- 1 stop after Namba.
* Takeshi suggested to purchase Kansai Chikatoku ticket
* Osaka will be our base during the whole duration of our trip
Day 2 (Thu) 6/2 *OSAKA*
-Universal Studios Japan
*Spend all day there so use single fare ticket to Universal City.
Day 3 (Fri) 6/3 * OSAKA*
-The Momofuku Ando Instant Ramen Museum
KITA AREA
– Umeda Sky Building
– Grand Front Osaka
-HEP Five
Day 4 (Sat) 6/6 *HIMEJI & KOBE*
*Plan to Use JR Kansai Area Pass one day at 2300 yen.
– Himeji Castle
– Kokoen Garden
– Kobe
Day 5 (Sun) 6/5
(planning stage) lol
Day 6 (Mon) 6/6 *OSAKA*
Minami (Namba) SHOPPING
– Shinsaibashi
– Dotonbori
– Namba Parks etc
Day 7 (Tue) 6/7
*Takeshi suggested Kansai Thru Pass- 2 days- at 4000yen.
*Use Kansai thru pass (day 1)
*NARA*
– Kofuku-ji Temple
– Todai-ji
– Nara Deer Park
*KYOTO*
– Fushimi-Inari-Taisha Shrine
– Tofuku-ji Temple
– Gion Corner
Day 8 (Wed) 6/8 *OSAKA*
*We plan to purchase Enjoy Eco Card at 800yen
– Osaka Castle
– Osaka Castle Park
– Osaka Museum of History
Day 9 (Thu) 6/9 *KYOTO*
*Use Kansai Thru Pass (day 2)
*Western Kyoto*
Arashiyama District
– Togetsukyo Bridge – Monkey Park
– Bamboo Groves
*Northern Kyoto*
– Nijo Castle
– Kinkaku-ji Temple (Golden Pavilion)
– Kyoto Imperial Palace
Day 10 (Fri) 6/10 *OSAKA*
Osaka Bay Area (
* use the Osaka Kaiyu Ticket at 2550 yen)
– Osaka Aquarium Kaiyukan
– Tempozan Ferries Wheel
– Naniwa Kuishinbo Yokocho food Theme Park
– Kuromon Ichiban Shopping
DAY 11 (Sat) 6/11
– do some more late minute shopping
– leave for KIX (evening flight)
My new questions are:
1) Regarding HIMEJI & KOBE
***You suggested to use the JR Kansai Area Pass.
a) Does this pass cover the subway part of the trip, like the Chuo line or Osaka loop line?
If not, what pass to use for the subways?
b) Is it acceptable to take shinkansen on our way back to Osaka, what pass to use?
2) Considering the length of our stay (10days) is it feasible to have a day trip to Nagoya maybe on Day 5?
a) Will it be very stressful?
b) What pass to use?
3) For Day 3, you mentioned that the Ramen Museum will use single fare. How about going to Umeda, What pass to use?
4) a) Can the ICOCA IC card be used for both JR & non JR lines?
b) If I will use single fare, then, can I use the ICOCA?
Sorry for the length of my post. I hope you don‘t mind. Really need some advices from a PRO.
Thank you, Takeshi. Best regards!
Cheers,
Ann
Hi Ann,
My answers are the following:
1) Regarding HIMEJI & KOBE
***You suggested to use the JR Kansai Area Pass.
a) Does this pass cover the subway part of the trip, like the Chuo line or Osaka loop line?
If not, what pass to use for the subways?
b) Is it acceptable to take shinkansen on our way back to Osaka, what pass to use?
A:
Kansai area pass covers only JR line. If you want the coverage of subway, Kansai thru pass is better. But trip time to Himeji is much longer than using JR train. You may find the link below:
https://jprail.com/destinations/kansai-area/how-to-access-to-himeji-and-kobe-from-osaka.html
If you want to use JR Kansai area pass, you need to pay single fare for riding subway.
Shinkansen is not covered by this pass at all. Only Kansai Wide Area Pass covers the trip to Himeji by Shinkansen. However it is too expensive to use this pass for just taking Shinkansen to Himeji. Even you have round trip to Himeji by Shinkansen, round trip fare is around 6500 yen. I think single fare is better option.
2) Considering the length of our stay (10days) is it feasible to have a day trip to Nagoya maybe on Day 5?
a) Will it be very stressful?
b) What pass to use?
You can do it. Kintetsu rail pass is the best deal.
https://jprail.com/travel-informations/other-rail-passes/rail-pass-for-visitors/kintetsu-rail-pass-most-affordable-deal-for-osakakyoto-nagoya-and-access-to-ise.html
This pass can be used for access to Nara and Kyoto too. But it gives you just access to Nara and Kyoto from Osaka. It does not cover local transportation, such as city bus and subway. Kansai thru pass is much more convenient.
3) For Day 3, you mentioned that the Ramen Museum will use single fare. How about going to Umeda, What pass to use?
Single ticket is best option because you will have short ride by subway between Awaza and Umeda only.
4) a) Can the ICOCA IC card be used for both JR & non JR lines?
b) If I will use single fare, then, can I use the ICOCA?
Yes. ICOCA covers all trains.
Cheers,
Takeshi / JPRail.com
Hi Takeshi,
Thanks for your very detailed reply.
I would like to ask your suggestions/advice for my Himeji-Kobe day trip from Awaza Station in Osaka.
I plan to take the Shinkansen (for that uniquely Japanese experience) directly to Himeji Station. (one way Shinkansen only)
Tour Himeji castle then Kokoen Garden .
Leave Himeji for Kobe (Sannomiya Station) using JR trains & limited express trains,
Then Kobe back to Awaza.
My questions are:
1) You suggested to use the JR Kansai Area Pass before. But this pass does not include the Shinkansen.
If we will be using Shinkansen to Himeji, & take the JR trains or limited express trains to Kobe & back to Awaza Station, what combination of passes will we use?
2) There are 2 choices for Sannomiya (Sannomiya JR and Sannomiya subway). Which one is the station for Kobe ?
3) Is Shinkansen Sakura faster then Hikari? 🙂
4) Can you please suggest an itinerary for Kobe from Himeji?
*If in case this information might help, I would like to make mention that we allotted 2 days for Kyoto & Kyoto/Nara.
You suggested we use Kansai Thru Pass (2 days).
(I read in one of your posts the Kansai Thru Pass also covers Kobe).
That’s all for now, Takeshi. Thank you so much for your help.
Cheers,
Ann
Hi Ann,
1. Add Shinkansen single trip ticket and add one more day of Kansai thru pass (use 3 days Kansai thru pass). Kansai thru pass is not the best choice for Kobe-Himeji because it’s much slower than JR trains. But it covers subway from Awaza to Shin-Osaka, from Umeda to Awaza. Of course it covers Kobe-Sannomiya to Umeda too In the cost, this is better option.
2 and 4. Same place. Please see the links below to find more info about trip to Kobe and Himeji.
https://jprail.com/destinations/world-heritage-destinations/how-to-access-to-himeji-and-kobe-from-osaka.html
https://jprail.com/destinations/kansai-area/osaka-kyoto-kobe-and-nara/guide-to-take-trains-in-kobe-how-to-choose-the-best-route-by-train-to-get-the-major-spots.html
3. Yes. But some Hikari is same as Sakura.
Cheers,
Takeshi / JPRail.com
Thank you so much, Takeshi! I really learned a lot from you.
You suggested Kansai Thru pass for the other commute except Shinkansen. But this pass doesnt cover JR trains which are much faster.
Can you suggest the pass to use if we opt for JR trains?
Do you have an idea of the time difference between JR & non JR trains?
Many many THANKS!
Hi Ann,
Only single fare is your choice for JR trains.
Please refer the link below to find the info about JR and Non JR.
Cheers,
Takeshi / JPRail.com
Hi Takeshi,
Thanks again!
Pls. kindly give me the link for the info about JR and Non JR again. Sorry, but I can not find it in your most recent reply.
According to Hyperdia, Himeji to Sannomiya using JR will take approx. 47min at 970yen.
Himeji to Sannomiya using non JR will consume approx. 74min at 1170yen but is covered by Kansai Thru Pass.
If we prioritize time during this particular day, then maybe using JR from Himeji to Sannomiya is a much better choice. What is the fastest way to travel for this day – Himeji to Kobe and finally Kobe to Awaza
Pls. Correct me if I am wrong.
1) Does it mean we will use single fares all throughout until the last leg of our trip which is Sannomiya to Awaza. (560yen).
2) Can we just use the ICOCA IC Card this time?
Thank you so much!
Hi Ann,
Please see the link below about JR and non JR.
https://jprail.com/travel-informations/tips-for-japan-rail-pass/how-to-transfer-among-kyoto-osaka-and-kobe-compare-japan-railway-and-private-lines.html
And also, you may find the detailed info about Kansai thru pass at the link below. It shows you the coverage map.
http://www.surutto.com/images/ticket/kansai_thru_pass/english/en_map.pdf
The fastest way is JR for Himeji to Kobe. And Hanshin railway (Kobe-Sannomiya to Kujo) and Osaka subway (Kujo to Awaza). In this case, you need to pay single fare. Because you will take JR before Kobe and Non JR after Kobe. You can use ICOCA to take all these trains.
Cheers,
Takeshi / JPRail.com
Thank you so much, Takeshi! You‘re an angel 😉
I will study those links first.
Thanks again. Have a nice day!
Cheers,
Ann
No problem, Ann.
Cheers,
Takeshi / JPRail.com
Hi Takeshi.
I quoted your previous reply below:
“The fastest way is JR for Himeji to Kobe. And Hanshin railway (Kobe-Sannomiya to Kujo) and Osaka subway (Kujo to Awaza). In this case, you need to pay single fare. Because you will take JR before Kobe and Non JR after Kobe. You can use ICOCA to take all these trains.”
These are my questions:
1) Where is this Kobe Sannomiya Hanshin station?
2) I checked Hyperdia & found out that you suggested 2 separate routes.
So, does that mean that when I reach Kujo, I need to go out the train & change to Osaka subway for Awaza?
Can you kindly pls teach me how to go about it.
Thanks so much
Cheers,
Ann
Hi Ann,
1) I have given this link below already. It shows all “Sannomiya station” in the map.
https://jprail.com/destinations/kansai-area/osaka-kyoto-kobe-and-nara/guide-to-take-trains-in-kobe-how-to-choose-the-best-route-by-train-to-get-the-major-spots.html
2) Yes. You need to exit. Hanshin’s Kujo station is located underground and subway station is not underground but it’s on the ground. Just follow the sign. It’s not hard to find.
Cheers,
Takeshi / JPRail.com
Good morning, Takeshi!
Thanks for the latest links you gave me last Sunday.
Sorry but I am a bit “slow” in getting directions So I really have to ask in detail. Hope you understand. ☺
As a recap of our HIMEJI-KOBE DAY TRIP, here goes. Pls correct me if I am wrong.
7:29 am
AWAZA – HIMEJI (experience to take Shinkansen )
I found this route in Hyperdia.
Shortest travel time and only 2 transfers.
Not sure if I am correct. ? ?
AWAZA-
(Osaka City Subway Chuo Line for Gakkennaratomigaoka) ==>
HOMMACHI –
(Osaka subway Midosuji Line for Senrichio) ==>
SHIN-OSAKA [departure track 21]
(Shinkansen Hikari 493) ==>
* HIMEJI *
time duration: 64min
total fare : 3980 base fare: 1730 + reserved seat fee: 2250
[subway fares: 240 + Shinkansen: 1730]
Questions pls…
1) Pls comment on my choice of route.
2) How far are the 2 Subway lines from each other?
3) When we exit the Shinkansen terminal in Himeji, how will we reach the Castle & Kokoen Garden?
4) Is there a need to purchase “reserved seat” for the Shinkansen?
5) A] NO pass can cover for this route. ALL SINGLE FARES, right?
B] ICOCA for subways.
C] * Is the Shinkansen ticket bought as a separate ticket?
* Can we buy the Shinkansen ticket before the day we will use it?
* Can we change dates if the ticket is already purchased?
I will post my Kobe questions later. I wil try to finish the Himeji part first.
Sorry for the length of my post. I hope you understand.
Really appreciate your BIG help, Takeshi. Thank you for helping us unconditionally
Cheers,
Ann
Hi Ann,
1. That’s good.
2. Not much, takes about 3-5 minutes. Just follow the signage. You don’t need to exit.
3. Please see the link below:
https://jprail.com/destinations/kansai-area/himeji-station-guide-how-to-get-himeji-castle-from-the-station.html
4. You may take non reserved seat if you want. But sometimes it’s hard to get a seat on non reserved car.
If you take reserved seat, Sakura is better than Hikari because Sakura’s reserved seat is 2+2 seat layout but Hikari has 2+3. Sakura has more spacious seat. Check it at hyperdia and you will find Sakura at 8:00 and 9:00.
5.There is no deals. Single fare is your chocie but you can use ICOCA to take all trains other than Shinkansen. You can purchase Shinkansen ticket at any major JR stations in advance.
You may change the date just once before departure time. You cannot change it twice and cannot change it after departure time either. But you still can take non reserved seat by reserved seat even after departure time.
Cheers,
Takeshi / JPRail.com
Hi Takeshi. Thanks for the Himeji link!
Its been a habit for me this past week to check for new comments in your page. Really learned a lot!
Here is my KOBE itinerary. . .
After Himeji, we will go back to Osaka via KOBE.
We decided to take JR train to Kobe coz it is faster.
HIMEJI –> KOBE (SANNOMIYA JR)
** Take JR Special Rapid Service for Omishiotsu or Yasu or Nagahama or Tsuruga (depending on the time we arrive at the terminal)
travel time: 39min
price: 970 yen
Upon arrival at the JR Station in Kobe, we plan to visit these attractions.
[I got the idea from this link you provided: “Guide to take trains in Kobe. How to choose the best route by train to get the major spots?”]
1) Sannomiya
2) Meriken Park
3) Harborland
My questions are:
1) From the JR station, what place will we visit first? Pls suggest a better feasible route to follow for the sightseeing.
2) How will we go from 1 attraction to the other?
3) I read about the “City Loop One Day Pass”. Is this a better deal than “Single Fare” when visiting only the attractions I mentioned?
After the Kobe tour, it’s time to go back to Osaka!
You suggested:
A) Hanshin railway (Kobe-Sannomiya to Kujo) ==>>
B) Osaka subway (Kujo to Awaza).
KOBE-SANNOMIYA (HANSHIN) => AMAGASAKI (HANSHIN) => KUJO (OSAKA)
Exit for Osaka City Subway Chuo Line ??
KUJO (OSAKA) ==> AWAZA
My questions are:
1) Can you pls suggest another route if we do not want to exit anymore & just transfer rails?
2) What station do we take this train?
Thank you so much Takeshi!
Cheers,
Ann
Hi Ann,
I have already given you the link about trip to Kobe day before yesterday. I put the link again. Please read it carefully. You will find the solution about trip in Kobe.
https://jprail.com/destinations/kansai-area/osaka-kyoto-kobe-and-nara/guide-to-take-trains-in-kobe-how-to-choose-the-best-route-by-train-to-get-the-major-spots.html
There is no other route without exit the station from Kobe to Awazawa. You have to exit the station at least once because Awaza is Osaka subway station. There is no way to get Awaza from outside Osaka. This is actually the easiest route.
Cheers,
Takeshi / JPRail.com
Greetings Takeshi.
I had been reading the links you gave very carefully. So informative & helpful! THANK YOU.
I would like to share with you my revised “KYOTO” days.
I would like to make mention that we will be staying near Awaza for the entire 10 days of our trip.
Here is my revised KYOTO 2day itinerary. . .
DAY 1
am Arashiyama
Tenryuji
Kinkakuji
Nijo Castle
pm Nishiki Market
Shinkygoku Mall (shopping)
Teramachi Mall (shopping)
Higashiyama district
Gion
DAY 2
am Kiyomizudera
Ginkakuji
Tofukuji
Fushimi Inari Shrine
pm NARA
Todaiji Temple
Nara Park
Kasuga Shrine
Kofukuji
Q1: Is this type of itinerary feasible?
Q2: Is the Kansai Thru Pass – 2 day pass – covered in this type of itinerary?
Q3: Can you please help me reaarrange the attractions for a smoother feasible route?
Which place must come first etc.?
Q4: We plan to shop around Kyoto Station. What day can we do this if time permits?
Thanks a lot, Takeshi!
Best regards,
Ann
Hi Ann,
Q1: Is this type of itinerary feasible?
It will be tight but you will make it. I think you will spend entire morning for just Arashiyama. You will be Nishiki Market in mid afternoon. But if you have a time on day 1, try to visit Ginkakuji temple.
Q2: Is the Kansai Thru Pass – 2 day pass – covered in this type of itinerary?
Yes.
Q3: Can you please help me reaarrange the attractions for a smoother feasible route?
Which place must come first etc.?
The route is okay. But I recommend you to switch Nara and Kyoto on day 2. Go to Nara first. And then visit Fushimi, Tofukuji and Kiyomizudera. As I mentioned, if you visit Ginkakuji on day 1, day 2 is easier.
Q4: We plan to shop around Kyoto Station. What day can we do this if time permits?
Day 2 is better but I recommend you to visit Ginkakuji on day 1 and visit Nara in the morning.
You can go to shopping district in the evening. Try to visit temples and shrines in day time as many as you can
Cheers,
Takeshi / JPRail.com
Thank you, Takeshi, for the suggestions & advices.
My family prefer to travel at a medium to light pace. We are not very much into hiking & temples either. But kyoto is famous for the many beautiful temples & shrine. So we need to visit the famous attractions in this city.
Q1: a) Do you think we need to allot a third day for Kyoto? (Maybe Eastern kyoto one day; Arashiyama, Central & Northern Kyoto one day, Southern + Nara one day)? OR
b) just remove some smaller temples in my itinerary so as not to be very hectic.
Q2: If we reach Nashiki Market mid afternoon of Day1, then there is a great possibilty that it might be closed already when we reach it, am I right?
Q3: Can you please help me rearrange/Regroup the attractions. Really appreciate it!
Q4: Do we need to buy Kansai Thru Pass 3 day if ever there will be a day3?
I am a bit problematic coz even though I know the Must See Attractions, I am still having a hard time grouping these places into 1 feasible day.
Pls, I need your professional guidance on this matter.
Thanks again, Takeshi.
Best regards,
Ann
Hi Ann,
Q1: a) Do you think we need to allot a third day for Kyoto? (Maybe Eastern kyoto one day; Arashiyama, Central & Northern Kyoto one day, Southern + Nara one day)? OR
b) just remove some smaller temples in my itinerary so as not to be very hectic.
It’s hard to say. You have no idea how much you can do now. I have no idea how much you can do either. You will find it when you travel.
Q2: If we reach Nashiki Market mid afternoon of Day1, then there is a great possibilty that it might be closed already when we reach it, am I right?
No. It’s open until around 17:00. This is a retail market. It’s open for daytime.
Q3: Can you please help me rearrange/Regroup the attractions. Really appreciate it!
No, I can’t. As I mentioned, at this point, you and I cannot arrange it. You can keep it until you make this trip.
And also this is that you have to do by yourself. It’s a part of your trip.
Q4: Do we need to buy Kansai Thru Pass 3 day if ever there will be a day3?
I don’t think so. But if you cannot make all places in one day, just visit only Kyoto on day 2 and skip Nara. You can visit Nara on next day by single fare.
This is only way to make an adjustment on the spot.
You may purchase Kansai thru pass 3 days but it may not be necessary.
Cheers,
Takeshi / JPRail.com
Thank you, Takeshi! You have been a GREAT help! Sincerely appreciate all your help.
I decided to do 2 Full days Kyoto. We will do Nara on a separate day using Single Fare.
I regroup the attractions & came up with this 2 DAY KYOTO itinerary. . .
DAY 1
Kiyomizudera
Tofukuji
Fushimi Inari
Kinkakuji
Nijo Castle
Nishiki Market
Teramachi Shopping Arcade
Shinkygoku Shopping Arcade
DAY 2
Arahiyama District
Tenryugi
Bamboo Groves
Togetsukyo Bridge
Higashiyama District
*Yasaka Shrine
*Maruyama Park
Gion
Q1: a) Is this type of itinerary feasible?
b) If ever you feel that a particular day is tight, can you help me choose the attractions to move to the other day?
Q2: Is the Route/ Order / Grouping of the attractions in a particular day correct?
You mentioned that Nishiki Market is open until 5pm.
Q3: What time do stores at Higashiyama District close?
Q4: How about the Shopping Arcades?
We plan to have dinner at Gion and stroll the area afterwards. Hope to meet some geisha on the way!
Q5: Until what time is Gion open?
Thank you so so much, Takeshi!!!
Best regards,
Ann
Hi Ann,
Q1: a) Is this type of itinerary feasible?
b) If ever you feel that a particular day is tight, can you help me choose the attractions to move to the other day?
Q2: Is the Route/ Order / Grouping of the attractions in a particular day correct?
It’s feasible. But if you switch Kinkakuji on day 1 and Higashiyama on day 2, it’s much smoother. Higashiyama and Gion are very closed to Nishiki market. Kinkakuji is located at west side. It’s opposite side of Kiyomizudera and Nishiki.
Q3: What time do stores at Higashiyama District close?
Q4: How about the Shopping Arcades?
Q5: Until what time is Gion open?
It depends on the store. There are many shops there. I believe most of them opens until 19:00 or 20:00.
Ann, would you mind to stop asking me this type of question? These are basically out of topic on my website. You may find these information by google search.
At last, if you are pretty sure to visit Nara on next day (3rd day), you should purchase 3 days Kansai thru pass. If you are not sure but maybe you can make both Kyoto and Nara, single ticket is your option. But if you have decided it to spend one more day, Kansai thru pass is better option.
Cheers,
Takeshi / JPRail.com
Thank you so much, Takeshi! You’ve been of utmost help to my family!!! Thank you!
Cheers!
Ann
No problem, Ann.
Cheers,
Takeshi / JPRail.com
Hi Takeshi san.
Can you pls explain to me the difference between these 3 tickets? There must be something different among these 3.
Multiple Ride Card
Rainbow Card
Enjoy Eco Card
In what instances can these cards be covered.
Thanks a lot!
Cheers!
Hi Ann san,
Multiple card and Rainbow card are almost same. It’s prepaid card. If you have these card, you can slot this card into ticket gate. You don’t need to purchase a ticket one by one.
Eco card is one day unlimited card. If you take subway more than 4 times a day, this card will be cheaper.
Cheers,
Takeshi / JPRail.com
Thanks for the reply, Takeshi san.
How about the ICOCA? How does it differ from the Rainbow & Multiply Ride Pass?
Thanks again , Takeshi san.!
Cheers
Hi Ann san,
Almost same. But you can add more fund into ICOCA. You can use same card until you return it. However you have to pay 500 yen deposit when you have ICOCA.
Both Rainbow card and Multiple card is prepaid card. Once you use all amount of card, you have to buy other card. And also ICOCA can be used for all trains, include JR, private line and subway. Rainbow card covers subway and private lines. Multiple card covers only subway.
Cheers,
Takeshi / JPRail.com
Hi Takeshi,
Thanks for your swift reply. I am still finalizing my itinerary. Just want to ask your suggestion. On June 15, will be my last day in Kyoto and I plan to get a hotel in Osaka. I want to go to Nara Deer Park and Shin Kobe Ropeway on said day. After leaving Kyoto hotel what should I do first? Kindly note that my check in my Osaka hotel is at 3pm. I can leave my bags in the locker at Kyoto Station. Should I go to Shin Kobe then comeback for my bag in Kyoto Station then go to Nara before going to Osaka? Or go to Shin Kobe Ropeway, get my bag in Kyoto Station then go to Osaka hotel, leave the bags and go to Nara Deer Park. Which option is realistic, convenient, time and cost effective?
Thanks for the assistance. Really appreciate it.
Louie
Hi Louie,
Your route is the following:
Kyoto (Kintetsu railway) Kintetsunara (Kintetsu railway-Hashin Railway) Kobe-Sannomiya (bus) Ropeway
You don’t need to go back to Kyoto. It’s just wasting time.
You can get Kobe-Sannomiya from Nara by Kintetsu and Hanashin. These two train companies share the track and they gives you direct access to Kobe from Nara. You don’t need to change the trains in Osaka.
https://jprail.com/travel-informations/tips-for-japan-rail-pass/how-to-transfer-among-kyoto-osaka-and-kobe-compare-japan-railway-and-private-lines.html
But if you want to leave your bag at your hotel, you can stop by Osaka. It’s up to you.
Cheers,
Takeshi / JPRail.com
Hi Takeshi,
Just want to ask if I will leave my Kyoto hotel and bring my bags, can I leave it in Nara Station? Is there a Nara Station and is that possible?
After which I will follow your advise and go to Kobe. After Kobe, will go back to Nara to get my bags and proceed to Osaka to check in.
Thanks again.
Hi Louie,
You can leave your bag at Nara. But I recommend you to pick up it before leaving Nara. You have to spend another one hour at least for round trip to Nara from Osaka. It’s just wasting time. I recommend you to leave your baggage at hotel in Osaka or store your baggage in Kobe again. Osaka is located in the middle of Nara and Kobe.
Cheers,
Takeshi / JPRail.com
Hi Takeshi,
Is it possible to buy a round trip ICOCA and Haruka card if I will be using it for: Day 1 – Kansai Airport to Kyoto hotel and for my last day
Day 6 – Dotonbori hotel to Kansai Airport
If yes how much should I be paying? I am confused since the prices just indicate Kyoto or Osaka for roundtrip.
I am not sure if I should follow this itinerary or start my trip in Osaka and end it in Osaka so that I can use the ICOCA and Haruka card.
Hi Louie,
If you use round trip ticket, you have to use round trip to Kyoto. But if you purchase one way ICOCA and Haruka to Kyoto and purchase another Haruka direct ticket from Tennoji, it’s cheaper.
However Nankai railway is much more convenient because Dotonbori is a step away from Namba. You can pay single fare to take Nankai railway at 920 yen. If you want to take limited express, you can purchase rapi:t tokuwari ticket at 1130 yen.
http://www.howto-osaka.com/en/ticket/ticket/tokuwari.html
http://www.howto-osaka.com/en/railway/kix/fromkix/rapit.html
Cheers,
Takeshi / JPRail.com
Hi takeshi,
Here is my iti :
Day 1 arrived Osaka fr tokyo – himeji – kobe -osaka
Day 2 Osaka -kyoto – osaka (higashiyama district, kiyomizudera, kinkkakuji, arashiyama, tenryuji, bamboo groove, togetsukyo bridge, gion)
Day 3 Osaka – nara – kyoto (fushimi inari, uji, gion) – osaka
Day 4 & 5 osaka sightseeing
Day 6 USJ then back to tokyo by willer overnight bus
Day 1-3 using kansai thru pass 3 days
Day 4-5 osaka amazing 2 days pass
Is it ok with this itinerary?
Thanks
Hi Jin,
If you take willer or other bus from Tokyo to Osaka on day 1, your plan is okay.
Cheers,
Takeshi / JPRail.com
Hi takeshi,
Yes, on day 1, i will be arrived at osaka early in the morning by willer overnight bus.
Thanksalot
No problem, Jin.
Cheers,
Takeshi / JPRail.com
“Day trip to Kobe and World Heritage Himeji castle.
Use JR Kansai Area Pass one day at 2060 yen.”
Hi Takeshi,
For trip to Kobe and Himeji using Kansai Area Pass can it be used to ride Sanyo Shinkansen and if yes how much is additional fee?
Also, would like to get your thoughts if a day trip to Nara and Yoshino from Osaka is feasible. Do you have a suggested route and pass we can use? Thanks in advance
Hi JR,
You cannot take Sanyo Shinkansen by this pass. If you take Sanyo Shinkansen, you have to pay full fare. Don’t use Kansai area pass.
Nara and Yoshino is busy trip but it’s feasible. Only Kansai thru pass is the choice for this trip.
https://jprail.com/travel-informations/other-rail-passes/rail-pass-for-residents/how-to-use-kansai-thru-pass-compare-pass-and-single-fare.html
But this pass starts from two days. There is no One day pass available.
I have a sample plan to Yoshino from Osaka.
https://jprail.com/travel-informations/other-rail-passes/rail-pass-for-residents/kansai-thru-pass-sample-itineraries.html#Yoshino_Recommended_for_cherry_blossom_season
After visiting Yoshino, you can take Kintetsu railway to get Nara via Kashiwara-Jingumae, Yamato-Saidaiji.
Kansai thru pass does not cover last part of the trip to Yoshino. But other part of the trip will be covered. If you are okay with using this pass to get Himeji, you can go for this pass. But you have to give up riding Shinkansen.
Cheers,
Takeshi / JPRail.com
Hi Takeshi,
First ever try to explore JPN for me and my wife. We are trying to plan our itineraries and getting a bit confused with so many information on the web.
Arriving at KIX and leaving from NRT on our last day of 14 days visit. Our initial plan is Osaka-Nara-Kyoto-Tokyo. Is it better to go Osaka-Nara-Kyoto or Osaka-Kyoto-Nara? You think its better to stay in Osaka then make our trips to Kyoto-Nara then Osaka again before heading to Tokyo for the last leg of our visit?
Appreciate your comment and many thanks for the information you are providing on this site.
Cheers,
Abetmcd1
Hi Abetmcd1,
If you want to stay in each cities, Osaka-Nara-Kyoto is the best route.
If you want to enjoy sightseeing with luggage free, just stay in Osaka and make day trips to Nara and Kyoto.
Cheers,
Takeshi / JPRail.com