Access to Takayama and Hida from Nagoya. Limited Express Wide View Hida

Wide View Hida (Nagoya-Takayama-Toyama) is connected with Shinakansen at Nagoya.
Wide View Hida (Nagoya-Takayama-Toyama) is connected with Shinakansen at Nagoya.

Wide View Hida is a Limited Express train that is operated from Nagoya (名古屋) to Toyama (富山) via Gifu (岐阜), Gero (下呂) and one of the most popular destination, Takayama (高山). Hida is the name of the old prefecture in Samurai period. This train equip very huge windows. It can offer to passengers very panoramic view. That is why this train is called “Wide View”.

This train is very popular for the tourists from overseas. Of course this train is fully covered by Japan Rail Pass. So let’s see the details.

*The information in this article is current at the time of writing.

Route, schedule and time required

We have 4 round trips between Nagoya and Toyama, 1 round trip between Nagoya and Hidafurukawa (飛騨古川), and 5 round trips between Nagoya and Takayama. Trains depart from Nagoya almost every one hour in daytime. And also we have one more round trip between Osaka (大阪) and Takayama via Gifu and Gero. As of March 2015, the timetable is the following:

Osaka 07:58 -> Takayama 12:16
Takayama 15:36 -> Osaka 19:51

This train departing from Osaka is combined with the train from Nagoya at Gifu. It takes 2 hours and 30 minutes to get Takayama from Nagoya and 4 hours to get Toyama from Nagoya.


View Hida in a larger map

Stations

Station Depart from Nagoya Depart from Osaka
Osaka (大阪) x
Shin-Osaka (新大阪) x
Kyoto (京都) x
Kusatsu (草津) x
Maibara (米原) x
Ogaki (大垣) x
Nagoya (名古屋) x
Owari-Ichinomiya (尾張一宮) *
Gifu (岐阜) x x
Unuma (鵜沼) * *
Mino-Ohta (美濃太田) x x
Shirakawaguchi (白川口) * *
Hida-Kanayama (飛騨金山) * *
Gero (下呂) x x
Hida-Hagiwara (飛騨萩原) * x
Hida-Osaka (飛騨小坂) * *
Kuguno (久々野) * *
Takayama (高山) x x
Hida-Furukawa (飛騨古川) x
Inotani (猪谷) x
Etchu-Yatsuo (越中八尾) x
Hayahoshi (速星) *
Toyama (富山) x

x:All train stop *:some train stop

Accommodation

2+1 seat configuration Green seat is at the front of the formation, car#10. (C) Sonic Rail Garden
2+1 seat configuration Green seat is at the front of the formation, car#10. (C) Sonic Rail Garden

Wide View Hida is serviced by KIHA-85 series. This train has a great reputation. The huge glass windows gives you the spectacular scenery along Takyama line. “Wide View” is a worthy of the name.

This series has two types of Green car that are 2+2 seat configuration and 2+1 seat configuration. 2+1 seat configuration is wider and has a bigger leg space. The seat pitch is 1160mm on 2+2 seat configuration and 1250mm on 2+1 seat configuration. 1160mm is the standard. So 2+1 seat gives you a great deal! If you want to take this seat, try to reserved a seat on car#10. 2+2 Green car is always at the middle of the train. 2+1 is always at the front of the formation. And also Ordinary class is good too. The seat pitch is 1000mm. This is bigger than the standard.

When you take this train at Nagoya, the seat is set with the back toward. Because this train change the direction at Gifu. It takes only 20 minutes from Nagoya to Gifu. So you don’t need to change your seat.

*Sonic Rail Garden has copyright for all images of accommodations below.

Train formation

1 2 3 4 8 9 10
R R G NR R R NR G

Car#1-4 operate from Nagoya to Takayama/Hida-furukawa, Car#8-10 operate from Nagoya to Toyama

1 2 3 8 9 10
R NR R R NR G

Car#1-3 operate from Nagoya to Takayama/Hida-furukawa, Car#8-10 operate from Nagoya to Toyama

1 2 3 4
R R G NR R
1 2 3 5 6 7 8
R NR R R R G NR R

This formation is used for Osaka departure and Nagoya departure combination. It is connected at Gifu station.

Images

Green seat 2+2 configuration
Wide View Hida KIHA85 series Green seat Wide View Hida KIHA85 series Green seat Wide View Hida KIHA85 series Green seat Wide View Hida KIHA85 series Green seat

Green seat 2+1 configuration
Wide View Hida KIHA85 series Green seat Wide View Hida KIHA85 series Green seat Wide View Hida KIHA85 series Green seat Wide View Hida KIHA85 series Green seat Wide View Hida KIHA85 series Green seat Wide View Hida KIHA85 series Green seat

Ordinary seat
Wide View Hida KIHA85 series Ordinary seat Wide View Hida KIHA85 series Ordinary seat Wide View Hida KIHA85 series Ordinary seat Wide View Hida KIHA85 series Ordinary seat Wide View Hida KIHA85 series Ordinary seat

Sanitary space
Wide View Hida KIHA85 series sanitary space Wide View Hida KIHA85 series sanitary space Wide View Hida KIHA85 series sanitary space Wide View Hida KIHA85 series sanitary space Wide View Hida KIHA85 series sanitary space Wide View Hida KIHA85 series sanitary space Wide View Hida KIHA85 series sanitary space Wide View Hida KIHA85 series sanitary space

294 thoughts on “Access to Takayama and Hida from Nagoya. Limited Express Wide View Hida”

  1. Hi Takeshi,

    I shall go to Gero from Nagoya on 8th Oct 2016.
    Shall I need to book train ticket in advance (Limited express wide view Hida) ?
    How much for single /round trip fare ?

    Thanks

  2. Hi takeshi,
    I want to ask you a few questions about the trip to shirakawago. I will activate Takayama-hokuriku area tourist pass on this day. Please correct me if i am wrong.

    Here is my plan:
    1. First day, I will be travelling from shin-osaka to Kanazawa by thunderbird and spend one night in town. Does the pass covers the route to kanazawa and public transport in town?

    2. The next morning, i will go to shirakawago by bus in the morning and exit to takayama. Does nohi bus cover this route? Can i book this bus ticket The day before once i reach kanazawa?

    3. After that, i will go back from takayama to kyoto. i have checked in hyperdia it said i need to take wide view hida to nagoya via gifu. Then shinkansen to kyoto. Is there another available or recommended route? As i know the pass doesnot cover this one.

    Cheers,
    Tony

    1. Hi Tony,

      1. Thunderbird is covered. But it does not cover public transportation in Kanazawa.
      You can add one day bus pass in Kanazawa.
      http://www.hokutetsu.co.jp/en/en_round

      2. Nohi bus is covered by this pass. This bus is very popular, so I recommend you to book in advance over the phone.
      https://www.nouhibus.co.jp/english/highwaybus/shirakawago.pdf

      3. You can take this route. The pass covers until you get Nagoya as you know. You have to add single ticket from Nagoya to Kyoto.

      Cheers,

      Takeshi / JPRail.com

      1. Thank you Takeshi for your fast response.
        I have a few more questions about using the passes between takayama- hokuriku pass and kansai thru pass.

        1. Does the takayama-hokuriku pass cover the train from kansai airport to shin-osaka?

        2. Does it also cover the mrt ride in osaka?

        3. Can Kansai thru pass be used to travel to kansai airport?

        I am planning to buy both passes and now deciding on when to use it.

        Cheers,
        Tony

        1. Hi Tony,

          1. Yes. You can take Limited Express Haruka.

          2. Do you mean subway? If so, not. Please see the link below to find the coverage in Osaka.
          http://jprail.com/travel-informations/tips-for-japan-rail-pass/guide-to-take-trains-in-osaka-how-to-choose-the-best-route-by-train-to-get-the-major-spots.html#JR_Pass_Kansai_Area_Pass_Kansai_WIDE_Area_Pass_Kansai_Hiroshima_Area_Pass_Sanyo_Sanin_Area_Pass_Kansai_Hokuriku_Aea_Pass_Takayama_Hokuriku_Area_Pass

          3. Yes. You cannot take JR but you can take Nankai railway from Namba. You also can take subway to get Namba from other stations in Osaka.

          Cheers,

          Takeshi / JPRail.com

      2. Thank you takeshi.
        I have never seen the link attached. It is informative and very helpful in selecting type of pass.

        Cheers
        Tony

  3. Hi Takeshi,
    Would like to check with you, if I were travelling from Tokyo to takayama-shirawakago, which pass is suitable for me. If I buy the JR pass, I understand that we have to take Hikari train from Tokyo to Nagoya, then transfer to Hida train to Takayama. Just want to confirm is the JR pass cover for the Nohi bus fare from takayama to shirakawago. Or we need to buy the ticket separately?
    Or I have to buy for Takayama-Hokuriku tourist pass? I know that this pass is cover for the nohi bus ticket. Can you advice which option is convenience and save cost for me?

    1. Hi Karen,

      JR Pass covers all train trips but Nohi bus is not covered.
      Takayama Hokuriku Area pass covers Nohi bus but it does not cover between Tokyo and Nagoya.

      JR pass is better choice but it’s too expensive if you use JR Pass for Tokyo-Nagoya-Takayama only. It depends on how much travel after Takayama and Shirakawago.

      Cheers,

      Takeshi / JPRail.com

  4. hi takeshi-san,
    try to find route from nagoya to mino-ota in Hyperdia, but it shows that there is no mino-ota and route not found. so what should i put to instead mino for the same route?
    cheese

  5. Hi Takeshi, I will go to Takayama from Nagoya, just want to double check do I need to change the train at Gifu?

  6. Good day Takeshi,
    Just a few questions for the Limited Express Wide View Hida ticket.
    1) If I buy the TAKAYAMA HOKURIKU PASS, when I exchange the Pass at Narita Airport/JR station in Tokyo, can I reserve the Ltd Exp Hida (Nagoya to Takayama) at the same time? or I have to do it at Nagaya station?
    2) Can I buy the Limited Express Wide View Hida ticket at Tokyo? (without the TAKAYAMA HOKURIKU PASS)
    3) Can I ask my friend in Osaka to buy the Limited Express Wide View Hida ticket at Osaka station, but the train is start from Nagoya to Takayama?

    Thank You

    1. Hi Joanne,

      1. You cannot exchange the pass in Narita airport station. You need to go to Tokyo or Shinagawa. Please refer the link below:
      http://touristpass.jp/en/takayama_hokuriku/exchange/locations.html
      You can book after you exchange the pass in Tokyo or Shinagawa.

      2. Yes, you can. You can book at any major JR stations throughout Japan.

      3. If you don’t use the pass, yes, you can. The ticket does not show any personal info, like name. So anyone can buy a ticket and pass to other person. And as you mentioned above, the ticket can be purchased at any major JR stations throughout Japan.

      Cheers,

      Takeshi / JPRail.com

  7. Hi, Takeshi-san.

    I will be traveling on 2016.11.18 from Manila stopping first at Nagoya then leaving on an earliest train going to Takayama the next day 2016.11.19. Should I obtain the Takayama-Houkuriku pass, there is a 7:45 schedule with 3 stops (Gifu, Mino-ota and Gero) arriving Takayama at 10:02 via Wide View Hida Limited Express or Hida 1 track. Upon checking the Hyperdia, it does not show that Hida 1 track schedule on 2016.11.19 then instead jumped to Hida 5 schedule at 9:39. The earliest train schedule given will be leaving 6:26 then arriving Takayama at 10:11 with 3 transfers running on JR Takayama Line.

    a. Is the timetable in this site http://touristpass.jp/en/takayama_hokuriku/ for the JR Limited Express “Wide View Hida” portion updated?
    b. If the answer to the question ‘a’ is yes, is this a case that Hyperdia not yet updated on the 2016.11.19 schedule?
    c. If the answer to the question ‘a’ is no, can I follow the earliest given time by Hyperdia? Is the given time can be used with the Takayama-Houkuriku Pass?
    d. Do I need to have reserved seating for Wide View Hida Limited Express?

    Further, after arriving Takayama the same day 2016.11.19, I will be going to Shirakawago-Gokayama-Ainokuraguchi sectors via bus on the afternoon.

    e. Since the Takayama-Houkuriku Pass can only be purchased in a MCO form outside Japan for exchange at JR Chubu Airport office, for the Nohui Bus seat reservation, can I obtain seat assignment even with only an MCO? Can it be done thru accredited store/agency here in Manila prior arrival?
    f. Is the seat reservation (if necessary) can be done as well thru accredited store/agency in Manila with only MCO in hand for Wide View Hida limited express (Nagoya to Takayama on 2016.11.19 and Takayama to Toyama on 2016.11.21), Tsurugi or Hakutaka on 2016.11.21 from Toyama to Kanazawa, and Thunderbird limited express from Kanazawa to Kyoto on 2016.11.23?

    I appreciate your reply. Thanks.

    1. Hi Jini,

      Hyperdia does not show the correct timetable sometimes. Hida 1 will run. However JR will make an annual timetable revise in mid or late October. So you cannot find an exact timetable until mid October. I think it will not be changed drastically. Hida 1 will run on almost same schedule.

      You can book Nohi bus over the phone. Some of agents may be able to book it. But most of agents are not familiar with Japan. Just try to make a call by yourself.
      http://touristpass.jp/en/takayama_hokuriku/index.html#stop_tt

      Unfortunately there is no way to book a train outside Japan. You have to have actual pass and make a booking at Nagoya station. You will exchange your pass in Nagoya station, so when you exchange it, you can book it. It will be busy season to see fall foliage when you are in Japan. Bus and train may be busy.

      Cheers,

      Takeshi / JPRail.com

  8. Hi, I am planning to go to Takayama from Kyoto next sunday (15th).
    I’d like to take the limited express hida 25 in Kyoto at 8:34. I’m travelling with my wife and we have two suitcases (80x60x30). Will I have problems with the luggage? (Space for it).

      1. Hi Takeshi, thank you very much for your help. I understand that travel with large suitcases in japan trains could be sometimes dificult. I’ll try to manage it as well as possible.

        Cheers

        Lluis

  9. Hi, i am planning to go to takayama from kyoto (Nijo Station)

    Last month i checked hyperdia, and found that i can depart from nijo station at 5.20 am and arrived at takayama station around 10 am.

    But when i check again now, is the schedule changes? Because i will arrive at takayama station around 12 pm now.

    Can you tell me the route to arrive at takayama around 10 am? (Note: i am using JR Pass, so Nozomi/Mizuho Shinkansen is not covered)

    1. Hi Lydia,

      I could find this route at Hyperdia.

      06:26
      begin NIJO(KYOTO)
      [6 Min]
      through
      JR Sagano Line for KYOTO
      06:32
      06:42
      transfer KYOTO
      [ Arrival track No.32 / Departure track No.11 ]
      [51 Min]
      through
      SHINKANSEN HIKARI 506
      07:33
      07:45
      transfer NAGOYA
      [ Arrival track No.15 / Departure track No.11 ]
      [137 Min]
      through
      LTD. EXP (WIDE VIEW) HIDA 1
      10:02 TAKAYAMA

      If you leave 6:26, you can get Takayama at 10:02.

      Cheers,

      Takeshi / JPRail.com

      1. Hi Takeshi.. thanks a lot for your reply.

        For June, yes the schedule is like yours (arrived around 10 am).. but when i try for december, the schedule is diffrerent (arrived around 12 pm).. can you tell me why it’s like that?

        1. Hi Lydia,

          JR make the annual timetable revise in every March and October. So Hyperdia does not have correct timetable yet. This is the reason why.
          Actually nobody has the timetable after October. I think it will not be much different. But you have to wait for new timetable until late September.

          Cheers,

          Takeshi / JPRail.com

          1. Hi Takeshi, if the revise on march and october, why starting from July the schedule is different? Arrive at 12 pm. Can you please check?

          2. Hi Lydia,

            I found the note at the bottom of hyperdia that says, “The train and flight schedules are available from March 26, 2016 to June 30, 2016.”
            The server of hyperdia does not have updated timetable after July. I guess summer seasonal train schedule will be released in late May or early June. It will be updated after seasonal operation schedule will be released. But you can use same timetable before June 30 for after July. It will be same.

            Cheers,

            Takeshi / JPRail.com

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