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Access to Takayama and Hida from Nagoya. Limited Express Wide View Hida


This train has the huge window. You can enjoy a view at the front row.

This train has the huge window. You can enjoy a view at the front row.

Wide View Hida is a Limited Express train that is operated from Nagoya (名古屋) to Toyama (富山) via Gifu (岐阜), Gero (下呂) and one of the most popular destination, Takayama (高山). Hida is the name of the old prefecture in Samurai period. This train equip very huge windows. It can offer to passengers very panoramic view. That is why this train is called “Wide View”.

This train is very popular for the tourists from overseas. Of course this train is fully covered by Japan Rail Pass. So let’s see the details.

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Route, schedule and time required

We have 4 round trips between Nagoya and Toyama, 1 round trip between Nagoya and Hidafurukawa (飛騨古川), and 5 round trips between Nagoya and Takayama. Trains depart from Nagoya almost every one hour in daytime. And also we have one more round trip between Osaka (大阪) and Takayama via Gifu and Gero. As of December 2012, the timetable is the following:

Osaka 08:02 -> Takayama 12:13
Takayama 15:36 -> Osaka 19:51

This train departing from Osaka is combined with the train from Nagoya at Gifu. It takes 2 hours and 30 minutes to get Takayama from Nagoya and 4 hours to get Toyama from Nagoya.


View Hida in a larger map

Stations

Station Depart from Nagoya Depart from Osaka
Osaka (大阪) - x
Shin-Osaka (新大阪) - x
Kyoto (京都) - x
Kusatsu (草津) - x
Maibara (米原) - x
Ogaki (大垣) - x
Nagoya (名古屋) x -
Owari-Ichinomiya (尾張一宮) * -
Gifu (岐阜) x x
Unuma (鵜沼) * *
Mino-Ohta (美濃太田) x x
Shirakawaguchi (白川口) * *
Hida-Kanayama (飛騨金山) * *
Gero (下呂) x x
Hida-Hagiwara (飛騨萩原) * x
Hida-Osaka (飛騨小坂) * *
Kuguno (久々野) * *
Takayama (高山) x x
Hida-Furukawa (飛騨古川) x -
Inotani (猪谷) x -
Etchu-Yatsuo (越中八尾) x -
Hayahoshi (速星) * -
Toyama (富山) x -

x:All train stop *:some train stop

Accommodation

2+1 seat configuration Green seat is at the front of the formation, car#10. (C) Sonic Rail Garden

2+1 seat configuration Green seat is at the front of the formation, car#10. (C) Sonic Rail Garden

Wide View Hida is serviced by KIHA-85 series. This train has a great reputation. The huge glass windows gives you the spectacular scenery along Takyama line. “Wide View” is a worthy of the name.

This series has two types of Green car that are 2+2 seat configuration and 2+1 seat configuration. 2+1 seat configuration is wider and has a bigger leg space. The seat pitch is 1160mm on 2+2 seat configuration and 1250mm on 2+1 seat configuration. 1160mm is the standard. So 2+1 seat gives you a great deal! If you want to take this seat, try to reserved a seat on car#10. 2+2 Green car is always at the middle of the train. 2+1 is always at the front of the formation. And also Ordinary class is good too. The seat pitch is 1000mm. This is bigger than the standard.

When you take this train at Nagoya, the seat is set with the back toward. Because this train change the direction at Gifu. It takes only 20 minutes from Nagoya to Gifu. So you don’t need to change your seat.

*Sonic Rail Garden has copyright for all images of accommodations below.

Train formation

1 2 3 4 8 9 10
R R G NR R R NR G

Car#1-4 operate from Nagoya to Takayama/Hida-furukawa, Car#8-10 operate from Nagoya to Toyama

1 2 3 8 9 10
R NR R R NR G

Car#1-3 operate from Nagoya to Takayama/Hida-furukawa, Car#8-10 operate from Nagoya to Toyama

1 2 3 4
R R G NR R
1 2 3 5 6 7 8
R NR R R R G NR R

This formation is used for Osaka departure and Nagoya departure combination. It is connected at Gifu station.

Images

Green seat 2+2 configuration
Wide View Hida KIHA85 series Green seat Wide View Hida KIHA85 series Green seat Wide View Hida KIHA85 series Green seat Wide View Hida KIHA85 series Green seat

Green seat 2+1 configuration
Wide View Hida KIHA85 series Green seat Wide View Hida KIHA85 series Green seat Wide View Hida KIHA85 series Green seat Wide View Hida KIHA85 series Green seat Wide View Hida KIHA85 series Green seat Wide View Hida KIHA85 series Green seat

Ordinary seat
Wide View Hida KIHA85 series Ordinary seat Wide View Hida KIHA85 series Ordinary seat Wide View Hida KIHA85 series Ordinary seat Wide View Hida KIHA85 series Ordinary seat Wide View Hida KIHA85 series Ordinary seat

Sanitary space
Wide View Hida KIHA85 series sanitary space Wide View Hida KIHA85 series sanitary space Wide View Hida KIHA85 series sanitary space Wide View Hida KIHA85 series sanitary space Wide View Hida KIHA85 series sanitary space Wide View Hida KIHA85 series sanitary space Wide View Hida KIHA85 series sanitary space Wide View Hida KIHA85 series sanitary space


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96 Comments to “Access to Takayama and Hida from Nagoya. Limited Express Wide View Hida”

  1. Patrick Lim says:

    Hi i am travelling to Takayama on 08th December 2014

    I be arriving Chubu Airport 1530hrs and taking the μSky Ltd.Exp 1637hrs arriving Nagoya 1705hrs

    May i know how to get from Nagoya to Takayama? By Train or by Bus (I can’t seem to locate any site).

  2. Mycel says:

    Hi Samuel,

    I’ve been searching for all the possible route that can get us to Takayama from Osaka. Thankfully i stumble upon this post. I would like to ask for the cost of the fare of the direct train. And for the roundtrip ticket, can we take it on a different date? We are planning to go to Takayama on January 22 and back to osaka January 24.

    Thank you very much!

  3. Kris says:

    I am planning my itinerary to Nagoya next year and intend to go to Kurobe Alps. My itinerary will be:-

    1) Takayama 1 night
    2) Shirakaw gO 1 night
    3) Toyama 1 night
    4) Tateyama 1 night so that I can visit the Kurobe Alps but I will end in Nagono, so how to get back to Tateyama or do you suggest I stay in Nagano for 1 night before going back to Tateyama to pick up luggage and go back to Nagoya.

    Appreciate your enlightenment as I am moving from East to West on the Kurobe .
    .

  4. Emi says:

    Dear Takeshi,

    We will be staying in Takayama (13 Nov) for 2 nights, travelling from Nagoya (Chubu Int’l airport) to Takayama. Is it better to take a bus? or a train to Takayama? Do you know if my train rides from Nagoya to Takayama will be covered by JR rail pass? If so, which is the pass that i should purchase? As i will also be going to Osaka from Takayama, please advise if the JR pass can be used for this trip from Takayama to Osaka too? I checked on Hyperdia and saw that from Takayama i will need to take a Limited Express and then a Shinkansen Hikari to Shin-Osaka. In this case, when i purchase my tickets at Takayama JR station, am i able to buy only Limited Express ticket or i can also purchase my Shinkansen tickets at the same time? Sorry for the lengthy questions. Appreciate your help on this! Thank you so much!!

    • Hi Emi,

      I just have received very similar inquiry today. And I’ve got very useful info from reader. That is Shoryudo highway bus ticket. I’m not very familiar with this ticket. But this is the cheapest option to get Takayama from Chubu airport.
      http://www.japanican.com/en/tour/detail/TKT3C006C/?typecd=PRA
      But please don’t ask me any more info about this deal. I just got info today.

      For the trip to Osaka from Nagoya, Shinkansen single ticket is most common choice. But if you don’t care to spend extra one hour and trip to Osaka (Namba), Kintetsu Rail Pass at 3800 yen is the most reasonable choice.
      http://www.kintetsu.co.jp/foreign/english/useful/ticket/rpw1-krpw.html

      Kintetsu railway’s limited express has very comfortable seat. It’s not much different from Shinkansen. Especially your final destination in Osaka is Namba, this ticket is the best choice.

      If you use Shinkansen, that’s okay. Your choice is regular single ticket. You can purchase any JR station, Nagoya, Takayama or any other major station. Even if you don’t take JR train at Takayama, you can purchase it.

      Cheers,

      Takeshi / JP Rail

  5. Habib Ho says:

    Hi Takeshi san
    We will be in Kyoto from end October 2014.
    Intend to travel to Takayama on 1st Nov. by Ltd.Exp. Wide View HIDA from Kyoto.
    Kindly advise is this train covered by Japan Rail Pass.
    From Takayama to Toyama is this train Wide View Hida still applicable for Japan Rail Pass.
    On the way back to Kyoto from Toyama can the Japan Rail Pass be use on the Thunderbird train.
    Your valuable advise is much appreciated.
    Thank you

    Rgds
    Habib

  6. Siew Yun says:

    Hi Takeshi,

    I could not find the price for Limited Express Wide View Hida and I am planing to go Japn next April 2015. Below are my rough itinery :

    1) Arrive in Nagoya and transfer to Takayama (1 night)
    2) Takayama to Shirakawago ( 2 nights)
    3) Shirakawago – Takayama – Toyoma (2 nights)
    4) Toyoma to Kyoto (2 nights)
    5) Kyoto to Osaka (2 nights)

    Please assist me whether I am worth using the 7 days JR pass?

    Thank you.

    Regards,
    Siew Yun

    • Hi Siew Yun

      No. Single tickets are much cheaper than JR pass. I estimate total fares will be 20000 yen.
      Unfortunately there is no choices other than single tickets.

      You can find the fare at Hyperdia.
      http://jprail.com/travel-informations/basic-informations/timetable-and-reservation/hyperdia-perfect-guide-train-timetable-and-route-search-engine.html

      Cheers,

      Takeshi / JP Rail

      • Janice says:

        Hi Takeshi & Siew Yun,

        perhaps i can be of some help as i was on a similiar route last month.

        1. i bought JR 7 day pass at Y29,110. This is current price with the new 8% consumption tax.

        2. there is a bus which you can take from Nagoya airport directly to Takayama. There is now a promo till next year, but pls check the Takayama website to be sure of the end date for 2015. if you want to take the train, you probably have to connect from airport to shinkansen station before you can take the wide view hida to Takayama. so the bus is probably a better way to go.

        3. Wide View Hida train – its v scenic and nice along the route but i think for the bus, you will also get to see some of the scenic view. This was told to me by a fellow tourist on the same bus we took to Shirakawa go as they took the bus from Nagoya to Takayama.

        4. Wide view Hida schedule – you can check the time table and all other time tables and prices from the hyperdia link which Takeshi san gave on his reply. i found it a v useful tool in my planning.

        5. Shirakawa go – only bus or car is accessible. Good choice to go from Takayama.

        6. are you going Toyama becos of Japan Alps/Murodo? pls note the train from Takayama to Toyama is a long ride unless you manage to get on the wide view hida which i think runs only once a day. i left Takayama on 5.30am train and got back to Takayama around 5pm on same day and that allowed me only up to Murodo. so staying one night in Toyama is a good choice.

        7. my opinion – Shirakawa go one night stay is probably better. everything shuts down after the last tour bus leaves Shirakawa go which is about 5pm. one night stay in Shirakawa go will cost Y9,000-10,000 with one dinner and breakfast.

        8. Kyoto – you shld allocate more time bcos 2 nights is v short.

        Enjoy your planning. Good luck.

        Cheers
        janice

  7. Sam says:

    Hi Takeshi,

    Am visiting Japan June 4-11 arriving Chubu Nagoya. Staying at Takayama (3nights), Himi (2 nights) and Fuki (2 nights). We are a group of 4. Any rail passes that are cheaper than buying normal tickets as we travel?

    Thank you. Your site info is very helpful.

  8. Janice says:

    Dear Takeshi san, I’m now in Takayama via Wide View Hida 9 from Nagoya and it was an absolutely beautiful ride. Thank you for this write up bcos I made sure I booked the wide view train.

  9. yana says:

    We will travel to takayama from odawara at the end of July 2014. Does Jr pass cover all d trains (hikari and wide view hida). Is it difficult to find wide view Hida as we stop hikari in nagoya? (We have a couple old people). Do those 2 trains in the same platform? Is the english signage in the station easy to follow?

  10. Samuel says:

    Hi Takeshi,

    I am planning to visit Takayama from Osaka. What would be your suggestion for transportation to Takayama? By bus or by wide view Hida? Which would offer nice scenery n comfort for the long trip? I planned to visit japan in Feb 2015. It is kind of hard and confusing as per now. If by train, should I go Nagoya first then change train to Takayama? Or directly from Osaka to Takayama? Is it difficult to get seats in the limited wide view hida?

    Hope you can share a bit your advise.

    Thanks in advance,

    Samuel

    • Hi Samuel,

      I recommend you to take Shinkansne to Nagoya and then take Wide View Hida. There is one round trip from Osaka to Takayama directly.
      7:58 Osaka – 12:15 Takayama
      16:36 Takayama – 19:51 Osaka
      If you can catch this, you don’t need to transfer at Nagoya. But you will travel in next year. The scheduled may be changed.
      From Nagoya, this train runs almost every hour. It’s not very hard to get a seat. Especially February is not a peak season.

      Cheers,

      Takeshi / JP Rail

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