I have received many inquiries about Osaka-Tokyo one way trip plus Hakone and Fuji. In this case, Japan Rail Pass is too expensive for Osaka-Tokyo one way trip. So I would like to show you a classic itinerary for this trip. I want to share with you about how to combine several deals and single tickets.
What kind of ticket you need
From Kansai to Narita
ICOCA and Haruka one way ticket / 3000 yen
Base fare ticket from Kyoto to Shinjuku/ 7980 yen
Shinkansen Nozomi reserved seat supplement ticket from Kyoto to Shinagawa / 5540 yen
Base fare ticket from Shinjuku to Narta Airport / 1450 yen
Narita Express reserved seat supplement ticket from Shinjuku to Narita Airport / 1660 yen
Fuji Hakone Pass / 7000 yen
Limited Express surcharge for Odakyu Romance car from Hakone-Yumoto to Shinjuku / 870 yen
Total 27500 yen
From Kansai to Haneda
ICOCA and Haruka one way ticket / 3000 yen
Base fare ticket from Kyoto to Shinjuku / 7980 yen
Shinkansen Nozomi reserved seat supplement ticket from Kyoto to Shinagawa / 5540 yen
Base fare ticket from Shinjuku to Shinagawa (JR) / 190 yen
Base fare ticket from Shinagawa to Haneda Airport International Terminal (Keihin Kyuko) / 400 yen
Fuji Hakone Pass / 7000 yen
Limited Express surcharge for Odakyu Romancecar from Hakone-Yumoto to Shinjuku / 870 yen
Total 24980 yen
Itinerary
Day 1 / Kansai (KIX) – Kyoto
Kansai Airport is the gateway to this itinerary. ©Kansai International Airport Co.,Ltd/©JNTO
Ticket : ICOCA and Haruka
After arrival at KIX, go to JR Kansai Airport station and purchase ICOCA and Haruka one way ticket.
Limited Express Haruka is only direct train service from KIX to Kyoto. This is the best and the fastest. It runs almost every hour. It takes about 1.5 hour to get Kyoto from KIX.
If you are not hurry, try to complete all JR train bookings at Kansai Airport station. If you can’t, you can do it at JR Kyoto station. You have to purchase and book all ticket except Fuji Hakone Pass and Limited Express surcharge for Odakyu Romancecar.
Overnight in Kyoto
Day 2 / Kyoto
Togetsukyo bridge is the highlight in Arashiyama. ©Akira Okada/©JNTO
Use ICOCA for your sightseeing in Kyoto. I think 1500 yen e-money cover most of your trip in Kyoto.
Overnight in Kyoto
Day 3 / Kyoto – Tokyo – Shinjuku – Hakone
Ticket : Base fare ticket from Kyoto to Shinjuku, Shinkansen Nozomi supplement ticket, Fuji Hakone Pass
Kyoto 08:02 departure by Shinkansen Nozomi 306
Shinagawa 10:13
Take local train (Yamamote line) to get Shinjuku. It takes abut 20 minutes.
Shinjku 11:40 (Chuo Highway Bus)
Kawaguchiko station 13:32
After arrival at Kawaguchiko station, enjoy sightseeing around Lake Kawaguchi.
When you depart from Kyoto, you can take any Shinkansen train to Tokyo or Shinagawa. Please see JR Central Shinkansen timetable (PDF).
After arrival at Shinjuku station, go to Odakyu Sightseeing Service Center at Odakyu Shinjku station to get Fuji Hakone Pass.
*Please see Odakyu website to get more detail about Odakyu Sightseeing Service Center at Shijuku station.
By the way, Hakone and Fuji are located between Kyoto and Tokyo. Especially Odawara is the nearest station to Hakone and there is Shinkansen station. But I have two reasons why I skip Odawara and go to Tokyo. First of all, Fuji Hakone Pass is only unlimited ride ticket that covers both Hakone and Fuji can be purchased at Odakyu Shinjuku station only. We cannot purchase it at Odawara and any other stations other than Shinjuku. Second reason is luggage storage. In the trip to Fuji and Hakone, you will take lots of transportation and stay at different hotels for this 3 days trip. If you have a bit luggage, like full size suitcase, the luggage will be a big problem. So why don’t you leave your luggage in Shinjuku? This Fuji and Hakone trip is starting from Shinjuku and finish in Shinjuku. You can pack small luggage for just two nights trip to Fuji and Hakone. If you book hotel near Shinjuku station, you may be able to leave your luggage at the hotel. If you can’t you can use coin locker or storage service in the station.
In Fuji and Hakone, Odakyu Railway’s website provide nice itinerary and information about this trip. Please see Fuji-Hakone model course. But in this itinerary, recommended accommodations are a bit pricey. You can make an arrangement whatever you want.
Overnight in Lake Kawaguchi
Day 4 / Lake Kawaguchi – Gotemba – Hakone
Hakone Ropeway is one of the best way to see the mountains surrounding Hakone. ©Odakyu Electric Railway/©JNTO
Ticket : Fuji Hakone Pass
From Lake Kawaguchi to Gotemba, you can take Fuji Kyuko Bus by Fuji Hakone Free Pass. Unfortunately English timetable is not available, but you can check it at Japanese website. Please check Fuji Kyuko Bus website. There are two tables. Lower table is to Gotemba from Lake Kawaguchi. Lake Kawaguchi is shown as “河口湖駅” at the top of the table. Gotemba is shown as 御殿場駅(着)at the 4th row from the bottom. If you want to go to Gotemba Premium Outlet, you see “御殿場プレミアムアウトレット” at 2nd row from the bottom. If you click “11時~15時”, timetable shows timetable between 11:00 and 15:00. If you click “16時~19時”, you will see the bus between 16:00 and 19:00.
From Gotemba to Hakone-Togendai, take Odakyu highway bus. Timetable is shown on this PDF.
After arrival in Hakone-Togendai, you can enjoy cruise on Lake Ashi, Gondola ride or Hakone Tozan bus. All transportation guide in Hakone can be seen at Hakobe Navi.
Overnight in Hakone
Day 5 / Hakone – Tokyo
Ticket : Fuji Hakone Pass, Supplement ticket for Odakyu Romancecar
First of all, access to Hakone-Yumoto station. You can access there by Hakone Tozan Bus or Hakone Tozan Railway.
After arrival in Hakone-Yumoto station, you can take Odakyu Limited Express train “Romancecar” to Shinjuku directly. You have to pay additional 870 yen on Fuji Hakone Pass. But it is fast and more comfortable than local train. I strongly recommend to take this train.
If you leave your luggage in Shinjuku, don’t forget to pick up. Lots of shops and restaurant open until late in Shinjuku. You can enjoy Tokyo even after come back from Hakone.
Overnight in Tokyo
Day 6 / Tokyo
Ticket : Maybe subway pass (not included in total cost)
If you visit several places in one day, you may think about purchasing subway pass. Please see the post, Fast, economical and convenient for sightseeing in Tokyo. Learn about Tokyo Subways.
Overnight in Tokyo
Day 7 / Tokyo – Narita (NRT) or Haneda (HND)
Ticket : Single ticket to Narita from Shinjuku and Supplement ticket for Narita Express (to Narita)
Single ticket to Shinagawa from Shinjuku (JR) and Shinagawa to Haneda Airport International Terminal (Keihin Kyuko)
If you go to Narita, Narita Express is the best option from Shinjuku. It is direct service and on time. You may be able to take direct limousine bus to Narita from the door of your hotel. Please see the post, Compare many rail services and shuttle bus. How to get downtown Tokyo from Narita airport.
If you go to Haneda, it is simple. Just purchase the ticket at the vending machine in the station. You don’t need to prepare in advance.
You can extend as you like
I tried to put everything in 7 day. So I skipped Osaka and Nara. Of course you can add anywhere between Osaka and Tokyo if you have extra time. If you want to stop at Osaka, you can still use ICOCA and Haruka. ICOCA can be used for Osaka subway as well. If your ICOCA is empty before you go to Kyoto, you can add Kyoto city pass for your sightseeing in Kyoto.
Of course you can complete this itinerary in reverse. Total cost is a bit higher but not much different.
Comments
hi Mr takeshi,
I hope you can suggest which rail pass should i use for our 7-day tour in japan. i am thinking of buying the 7-day JR rail pass but i still don’t know if its worth it. this is my itinerary:
may9- arrive in haneda aiport at 2300
may 10-tokyo city tour
may11-hakone day tour and back to tokyo ( is it better to stay overnight in hakone then from there travel to kyoto?)
may12-travel to kyoto
may 13- kyoto tour
may 14- travel to osaka (do you think one day tour is enough in osaka?)
may 15-departure in osaka around 0010
although my itinerary is a little bit like the reverse side of yours(except for osaka tour), i still get confused. i hope you can help me. thanks!
Hi Mary,
JR Pass is more expensive than single tickets + Local deals. It’s same thing as the itinerary above.
I think staying Hakone is better than going back to Tokyo. One day tour is quite tight.
Here is the summary.
Metro pass or single ticket for Tokyo.
https://jprail.com/travel-informations/other-rail-passes/rail-pass-for-visitors/compare-many-discount-tickets-and-passes-for-sightseeing-tokyo-how-to-choose-the-right-tickets.html
Hakone pass for Shinjuku-Hakone-Odawara. Even if you give up return ticket to Shinjuku, this pass is still better if you visit most of places in Hakone.
http://www.odakyu.jp/english/deels/freepass/hakone/
Singlet ticket from Odawara to Kyoto. You can purchase this ticket in Tokyo in advance. Pick up Hikari that stop at Odawara from the timetable below. (It’s shown as “H” in timetable.)
http://english.jr-central.co.jp/info/timetable/_pdf/westbound.pdf
Kyoto sightseeing card or all day bus pass for Kyoto sightseeing:
http://www.city.kyoto.jp/koho/eng/access/transport.html
Single ticket from Kyoto to Osaka. This will be a local train ride. You can purchase a ticket on the spot at vending machine.
Single ticket or Eco card for Osaka sightseeing:
http://www.kotsu.city.osaka.lg.jp/foreign/english/ticket/convenient.html
*One day may be okay. But you have to decide where you want to go first.
Kanku Chikatoku ticket for transfer to KIX.
http://www.howto-osaka.com.e.iv.hp.transer.com/top/ticket/railway/
If you stay in Namba area, Kakuku Tokuwari Rapi:t ticket is a good too.
Cheers,
Takeshi / JP Rail
Dear Takeshi San,
Below is my 10 days itinerary: –
Day 1 tokyo haneda-shinjiku by limousine bus
Day 2 tokyo-disneyland
Day 3 tokyo city tour
Day 4 tokyo city tour
Day 5 shinjiku-mount fuji-hakone
Day 6 hakone back to shinjiku then travel to kyoto
Day 7 kyoto
Day 8 kyoto
Day 9 kyoto-osaka-nara
Day 10 osaka-tokyo haneda
For the above plan, worth to buy JR Pass 7 days. If yes, start from which day? And also please suggest the cheaper passes for my trip. Thank you.
Regards,
yip
Hi yip,
JR Pass 7 days is the best choice. You can start to use it on day 4 to the end of your trip.
Cheers,
Takeshi / JP Rail
Hello,
I arrive on a Friday afternoon in Narita.
NEX to hotel in Tokyo Westin
Saturday plan on sightseeing in Tokyo
Saturday night hotel in Tokyo Sheraton miyako hotel
Sunday early morning would like to travel by train to Hiroshima from Sheraton Miyako hotel Tokyo
Then travel back to Kobe for an hour
Then travel to Mt Fuli for a couple hours
Then back to Tokyo Westin hotel
Monday from Tokyo Westin return to Narita airport for 1 PM departure
would like to do high speed trains and green car if on this route, is this possible with the JRpass for 7 days or is there better option as I only need 4 days
Thank you
Hi Lew,
JR Pass 7 days is the best option. It’s cheaper than returne fare to Hiroshima.
However are you okay to travel Hiroshima, Kobe and Fuji in one day? It takes at least 4.5 hours to get Hiroshima from Tokyo. And you have to transfer either Shin-Osaka or Okayama. Please see Shinkansen (high speed train) timetable below.
http://english.jr-central.co.jp/info/timetable/_pdf/westbound.pdf
http://english.jr-central.co.jp/info/timetable/_pdf/eastbound.pdf
JR Pass does not cover Nozomi and Mizuho that are shown by “N” and “M” in the timetable. Some of Nozomi goes to Hiroshima directly, but it’s not covered. So you have to take Hikari or Sakura. (“H” and “S”)
If you disembark at Shin-Kobe for sightseeing in Kobe, you have to take subway to get downtown Kobe. It takes 5 minutes. But you will spend another 5 to 10 minutes to transfer from Shinkansen to subway. One hour is not realistic.
Regarding Mt. FUji, it’s located between Tokyo and Nagoya. It can be seen when you are on Shinkansen if weather is good. But if you want to have sightseeing, you have to go either Hakone or Lake Kawaguchi.
https://jprail.com/destinations/chubu-area/how-to-use-japan-rail-pass-to-go-to-mt-fuji.html
https://jprail.com/travel-informations/tips-for-japan-rail-pass/how-to-get-hakone-from-tokyo-compare-japan-railway-and-odakyu-lines.html
Hakone can be accessed from Odawara. But there are quite few Shinkansen stop at this station. It is very hard to get off there when you move from Kobe to Tokyo. And also you have to take other transportation to get Hakone. 2 hours is not realistic either. On the other hand, Lake Kawaguchi is completely different way. It cannot be included in Kobe-Hiroshima trip.
It’s not impossible to do Hiroshima, Kobe and Fuji (Hakone) in one day. But it will be super tight ant you have to make the detailed itinerary.
Cheers,
Takeshi / JP Rail
Hi,
I found that your guide suits me well. However, therr’s a problem with my plan. I would like to explore Osaka first, then travel to Kyoto. Since I prefer to stay at Dotonbori area, it would be quite a fuss to go all the way back to Kansai Airport to buy the ICOCA & Haruka pass. Is it then better to buy the 2 days Osaka pass and then take Haruka to Kyoto?
Thanks.
Hi Carmen,
You don’t need to use ICOCA and Haruka. Use Kanku Chikatoku or Rapi:t tokuwai deals.
If you can access your hotel from Nakani Namba station by walk, Rapi:t Tokuwari is the best deal. If you will take subway from Namba station to get your hotel, Kanku Chikatoku is better deal.
http://www.howto-osaka.com.e.iv.hp.transer.com/top/ticket/railway/
When you get Kyoto, you can purchase single ticket. There are lots of way to get Kyoto from Namba area. Please see the link to get more info:
https://jprail.com/destinations/kansai-area/guide-to-take-trains-in-kyoto-how-to-choose-the-best-route-by-train-to-get-the-major-spots.html
https://jprail.com/destinations/kansai-area/guide-to-take-trains-in-osaka-how-to-choose-the-best-route-by-train-to-get-the-major-spots.html
Cheers,
Takeshi / JP Rail
Hi Takeshi
Let me start by thanking you for your amazing work you’re doing here to help people visiting Japan.
You make it much easier for people to explore Japan.
I have few questions of my own
I will be visiting japan with two other friends on the end of March. This will be our itinerary.
From to
28-Mar 2-Apr Tokyo
2-Apr 6-Apr Osaka
6-Apr 8-Apr Takaragawa Onsen (nearest station is JR Minakami Station)
8-Apr 11-Apr Tokyo
arrive on 28 and leave on 11, Total of 15 days. It includes trips to Nikko, Nara, and Mt Fuji.
Will a 14 day Pass will be useful? What do you suggest?
On the 6-Apr we will leave from Osaka to Takaragawa (morning or afternoon?) which trains to take? I tried http://www.hyperdia.com but it give so many options that got me lost *_*
We are planning to go to(Harajuku, Akihabara, bamboo forest, Kyoto Imperial Palace/Maruyama Park in Kyoto) do you have any other suggestion to make the most of our JR pass?
Again thank you very much for all the effort you put to help and support others.
Sal
Hi Sal,
Thank you for your comment about my website.
You can use 14 days pass. This is the easiest and the best deal.
When you go to Takawaragawa Onsen from Osaka, the following route is recommended.
Shin-Osaka (Tokaido Shinkansen) Tokyo (Joetsu Shinkansen) Jomo-Kogen
Hotel site says they have free shuttle service at 14:00 from Jomo-Kogen station. (reservation required)
Shin Osaka 9:13 (Hikari 514) 12:10 Tokyo 12:44 (Max Tanigawa 411) 13:59 Jomo Kogen
This connection is the best to get free shuttle. I think this free shuttle is prepared for this train, Max Tanigawa 411.
You can go Kobe, Nara, even Hiroshima as day trip from Osaka. Nikko as day trip from Tokyo is possible.
Cheers,
Takeshi / JP Rail
So you think I should not activity my pass on the first day (28 March) as I will be arriving at 7PM, and just buy a one way ticket to from Airport to Tokyo station. and take advantage of the pass on the last day “also my flight is at night”?
Thanks for your support.
Sal
Hi Sal,
You can purchase Suica and N’ex.
https://jprail.com/travel-informations/other-rail-passes/rail-pass-for-visitors/suica-nex-ticket-very-flexible-and-good-deal-for-tourist-who-stay-in-tokyo.html
Even though you will get JR Pass, the pass does not cover subway in Tokyo, Kyoto and Osaka. Suica can be used any other trains. (but not cover bus)
This deal will be very good addition for your trip.
Cheers,
Takeshi / JP Rail
hi Takeshi,
I and my bf planning to go Japan about 10days during this year november. I would like to know if i go on 21st November, am i still able to see the peak autumn foliage in kyoto or should i go 1 week earlier? If i want to go osaka, kyoto, mount fuji and tokyo in one way, is it worth to buy 1 week JR Rail Pass? Is nagoya worth visit?
Hi dunkpitter,
1. Fall foliage
It will be okay to see in late November
2. JR Pass
Single trip is not enough. You will use some Kansai Area deals and single fare from Osaka to Tokyo. You need to build the detailed itinerary. Otherwise you can’t compare single fares and deals in Kansai area.
3. Ngoya
I don’t recommend if you don’t have anything to visit.
Cheers,
Takeshi / JP Rail
Good Evening
We will be visiting Chiba in July for a conference.
As I won’t be attending all the sessions my party and I would like to do day trips to various areas within Tokyo and Mount Fuji. We would love to visit Kyoto and Hiroshima for about three days. Will the 7 day pass be applicable and can it take us all the way to Hiroshima?
Thanks for your assistance.
Regards
Cella
Hi Cella,
Of course, JR Pass 7 days gives you a great deal. It will be much cheaper than single fares. It will be very tight trip to Hiroshima and Kyoto for 3 days. Because it takes 2.5 hours trip to Kyoto and another 2 hours to get Hiroshima. But it’s possible. If you want to see both really, just go for it. If you want to have more comfortable and relax trip, just trip to Kyoto is recommended.
And also you can use JR Pass for the part of trip to Mt. Fuji.
https://jprail.com/destinations/chubu-area/how-to-use-japan-rail-pass-to-go-to-mt-fuji.html
Cheers,
Takeshi / JP Rail
Dear Takeshi san,
I somehow felt shy and hesitant to post a comment on here and ask if you could kindly break it down for a very confused and overwhelmed me – but I finally decided to put it out there and I’d so very appreciate it if you could get back to me at your earliest convenience!
My family and I will be visitng Japan for the very first time this upcoming May, and it seems that regardless how many forums and articles I’ve read about different passes and travel options, I’m still as confused as ever! 🙁 What would be the most economical yet efficient way to get around?
7 day JR pass, Suica card, 2 day passes in Kyoto, 1 day pass in Osaka… the list goes on – and I feel no closer to figuring it out than the first day I started looking into it!
So here goes nothing:
Day 1: Flying into Narita airport, hotel in Shinagawa
Day 2: Tokyo
Day 3: Hakone (day trip)
Day 4: Tokyo to Osaka
Day 5: Osaka to Kyoto
Day 6: Kyoto
Day 7: Back to Osaka, fly out of Osaka
It would be awesome and amazing if you could give me a general idea of the best way to go about buying what I need to buy to get around… and thank you very much!
Hi Priscilla san,
Don’t worry. It’s quite simple.
My recommendation is the following:
Suica and N’ex
https://jprail.com/travel-informations/other-rail-passes/rail-pass-for-visitors/suica-nex-ticket-very-flexible-and-good-deal-for-tourist-who-stay-in-tokyo.html
Narita Express is the best train to get Shinagawa from Narita. This deal includes 1500 yen e-money. You can take any train not only in Tokyo but also Osaka, Kyoto.
But you can put into more fund in Tokyo area only basically. Even if you want to use more in Osaka, it’s very hard to find the place to put more fund into this card.
Hakone Free Pass
http://www.odakyu.jp/english/deels/freepass/hakone/
This deal is valid 2 days. Even though you will have one day trip, this deal may be better than single fare. It depends on how much you will use a transportation. If you intend to visit most of places, this deal is the best. It’s will be very tight but you can make most of places in Hakone as day trip.
Single ticket is your choice from Tokyo to Osaka. You can’t use Suica for this long distance trip. Suica can be used for a short trip only.
It’s very hard to say about Osaka and Kyoto at this point. Before we choose the deal, you have to make sure which area, spots or attractions you will go. For example, there are lots of shrines and temples in Kyoto. The key is the number of trips of bus and subway. If you visit only one area, you may take one round trip of bus. In this case, single fare is cheaper than day pass. I have some posts to explain about Kyoto and Osaka. I hope these posts will help you to build your plan.
https://jprail.com/destinations/kansai-area/guide-to-take-trains-in-osaka-how-to-choose-the-best-route-by-train-to-get-the-major-spots.html
https://jprail.com/destinations/kansai-area/guide-to-take-trains-in-kyoto-how-to-choose-the-best-route-by-train-to-get-the-major-spots.html
https://jprail.com/travel-informations/other-rail-passes/rail-pass-for-visitors/how-to-choose-discount-railway-ticket-and-pass-in-kansai-area.html
https://jprail.com/destinations/how-to-transfer-among-kyoto-osaka-and-kobe-compare-japan-railway-and-private-lines.html
At last, if you go to Kansai airport from Kyoto, JR West Kansai Area Pass is the best chocie.
https://jprail.com/travel-informations/other-rail-passes/rail-pass-for-visitors/how-to-use-jr-west-kansai-area-pass-compare-pass-and-single-fare.html
You can drop by Osaka if you want on the way to KIX.
If you need more help, don’t hesitate to let me know.
Cheers,
Takeshi / JP Rail
Dear Takeshi-san,
Your commentary are so fabulous. However I am still a bit confused with the type of passes that are available, as I am now trying to find the most economical.
I plan to visit Japan on May for 10 days and as of now my itinerary will be :
Day 1 : Arriving in Narita and take flight to Sapporo
Day 2-5 : Moving around Sapporo, Hakodate, Otaru, Furano etc.
Day 5 : Flying to Tokyo or Osaka (pm)
Day 6-9: Moving around Tokyo, Osaka, Kyoto, Fuji
Day 10 : Departing from Narita.
My question is, would there be any train pass that works for my itinerary ?
Hi Handoko,
If you will arrive in Tokyo after Sapporo, you can use JR Pass 7 days for Tokyo-Kyoto-Osaka-Fuji-Tokyo portion. But if you arrive in Osaka after Sapporo, single fare will be your choice for Kyoto/Osaka-Tokyo portion.
It’s very hard to compare which one is cheaper because you have to compare flight fare from Sapporo-Tokyo or Osaka.
JR Pass 7 days price is almost double of Tokyo-Osaka single fare and Shinkansen surcharge. But it does not included the fare for airport-downtown transportation. Osaka has two airports, Itami and Kansai. Itami is domestic airport and closer to downtown than Kansai. But there are several deals for Ksanai airport arrival passengers.
Anyway you have to decide which city you will go to after Sapporo. And then I can show you some options.
Cheers,
Takeshi / JP Rail
Dear Takeshi-san,
Thanks to your comments and feedback. I think I understand your points, so after looking deeper into the timing and priority, very likely my upcoming itinerary will be :
Day 1 to 5 : In Hokaido Moving around Sapporo, Hakodate, Lake Akan, Otaru.
Day 6 : Flying to Tokyo.
Day 7 to 9 : Staying in Tokyo, moving around Hakone, Mt Fuji, Kyoto.
Day 10 : Depart from Narita.
So I guess I need to buy Hokkaido Rail Pass to cover the long distance Sapporo-Hakodate vv and perhaps single fare will be more economical to cover my trips from Tokyo.
I have looked at the possibilities to take Sapporo/Hakodate – Tokyo train if I am holding a JRP, but seems the surcharge is more expensive than by airplane and 1 night hotel.
Your comments will be very much appreciated.
Best Regards,
Handoko
Hi Handoko,
First of all, you can use 7 days JR Pass for Day 6 after arrival at the airport to day 10 to the airport. You will have round trip to Kyoto from Tokyo and may take train to Narita. 7 days pass will be cheaper than single fares.
If you are okay with daytime train transfer from Hokkaido to Tokyo, you can use JR pass 14 days for all part of your trip. In this case, you don’t need to buy Hokkaido rail pass, of course.
ex)
JR Pass 7 days @ 28300 yen + Hokkaido rail pass @ 19500 yen = 47800 yen (+ air fare from Sapporo to Tokyo)
JR Pass 14 days @ 45100 yen
As you see, 14 days pass is much cheaper. It will be a long trip from Hokkaido to Tokyo. But if you stay in Hakodate at the end of trip in Hokkaido, you will take Limited Express Super-Hakucho and Tohoku Shinkansen. But it will take about 6 hours.
If you care about cost, 14 days JR Pass is your choice. If you don’t accept 6 hours train trip, take a flight to Tokyo from Sapporo.
Regarding overnight train, it’s not a good choice. As you said, surcharge and accommodation fee is quite expensive and very hard to book
Cheers,
Takeshi / JP Rail
Dear Takeshi-san,
Thank you for all the suggestion especially the 6 hrs train from Hakodate to Tokyo, which I thought the only available train for this route was the night train. Therefore I want your feedback again to my revised itinerary :
Day 1 : Arrive in Tokyo, take flight to Sapporo.
Day 2 : Stay in Sapporo (Single fares or one day pass if available)
Day 3 : Sapporo – Otaru – Lake Akan – Sapporo.
Day 4 : Sapporo – Hakodate.
Day 5 : Hakodate – Noboribetsu – Hakodate
Day 6 : Hakodate – Tokyo.
Day 7 : Tokyo – Kyoto – Tokyo.
Day 8 : Tokyo – Shirakawa go – Kanazawa – Tokyo
Day 9 : Tokyo – Hakone / Mt Fuji
Day 10: Stay in Tokyo.(one day pass)
Day 11: Tokyo – Narita to depart.(single fare)
I am thinking of purchasing JRP for 7 days and activated on Day 3. Would that be good option ?
Best regards,
Handoko
Hi Handoko,
If you use 7 days pass, that is a good idea. It’s the way of minimizing your budget.
But I’m just want to make sure a few things.
1. Tokyo – Shirakawa go – Kanazawa – Tokyo
Are you sure you will spend more than 10 hours for just transfer?
4.5 hours Tokyo – Takayama
1 hour Takayama – Shirakawago (But not covered by JR Pass)
1 1/4 hour Shirakawago – Kanazawa (But not covered by JR Pass)
4 – 4.5 hours Kanazawa – Tokyo
2. Tokyo – Kyoto – Tokyo
It’s easier than Tokyo – Shirakwaago, but you will spend at least 5 hours for just transfer.
3. Tokyo – Hakone/Mt. Fuji
If you are okay to see Mt. Fuji from Hakone, it’s okay. But you can’t visit both Hakone and another Fuji spot, like Lake Kawaguchi. It’s located at other side of Hakone.
I recommend you the following route:
Day 7 : Tokyo – Shirakawa go – Kanazawa (stay in Kanazawa)
Day 8 : Kanazawa – Kyoto (stay in Kyoto)
Day 9 : Kyoto – Odawara – Hakone – Tokyo
I think this is more comfortable.
Cheers,
Takeshi / JP Rail
Dear Takeshi-san,
Thanks for the prompt reply and great feedback related to the travel duration to be spent.
Regarding the Shirakawago trip, I had not studied the travelling time yet, I just thought it did not seem too far from Tokyo, thanks that you warned me about that. I am trying to find alternate destination that is much closer for a day trip, any suggestion ?
In the latest itinerary I am still trying to to make a few day trips only, because my wife and I are not sure whether it would be comfortable to carry a big suitcase (we will be away for 12 days) around in term of space in the train and the availability of escalators in all the stations. If you think the above should not be any issues, then certainly I will modify my itinerary to become more comfortable, like staying a night in Kyoto rather than rushing back to Tokyo in the same
day.
Best Regards,
Handoko
Hi Handoko,
You may consider some places in Kanto area, like Nikko, Kamakura, Kusatsu Onsen.
http://www.japan-guide.com/list/e1103.html
Regarding baggage, you may leave most part of your baggage in Tokyo and visit Kyoto or other places. If you use same hotel in Tokyo, I think you can leave your luggage at hotel. So you can visit outside of Tokyo with minimum luggage.
Cheers,
Takeshi / JP Rail
Dear Takeshi-san,
Thank you again for all your great advices, I will try to fine tune my itinerary to be more comfort.
By holding a JRP, do we need to pay seat reservation fee in case we will use the reserved seat ?
And if we want to upgrade to green car in specific trip, would that be possible ? If it is possible where can we see the surcharge ?
Best regards,
Handoko
Hi Handoko san,
JR Pass covers all reserved seat fee. So you can book it without any extra with JR pass.
If you use Green seat by ordinary pass, you have to pay Green seat fee and express surcharge. JR Pass covers only base fare. If you check it at hyperdia, you will find “fare” and “seat fee”. JR Pass covers “fare” only.
Cheers,
Takeshi / JP Rail
Dear Takeshi-san,
Appreciate your prompt reply and explantion.
Sorry, I am to ask again to make sure I understand well. I am using Hakodate to Tokyo as an example. It is mentioned in hyperdia that we will be on 2 trains (dep 8:08).
1. Super Hakucho 22 – Seat Fee ( Green : Y 3510; Res Y 1090 )
2. Shinkansen Hayate 30 – Seat Fee (Green : Y 10990; Res Y 6500)
If I am holding ordinary JRP, the seat reservation fee is covered, but if I am to sit in Green car in this particular section then I should pay an extra of Y 3510 or the difference between Y 3510 and Y 1090 ?
Best regards,
Handoko
Hi Handoko san,
You have to pay full 3510 yen. JR Pass includes limited express charge, but if you take Green, you have to pay this too.
Cheers,
Takeshi / JP Rail
Hi Takeshi San,
Your website is really informative and I have founded so much information in here for my incoming trips. But still not sure about the cards that I need. Below are my itineraries:
Day 1 – Haneda – Shinjuku by limousine bus
Day 2-3 – Tokyo sightseeing (suica?)
Day 4 – Shinjuku – KAwaguchi by bus
Day 5 – Kawaguchi – Kyoto (I have been informed to take fujikyu bus to Mishima and then Shinkansen to Kyoto) or should I back to Shinjuku as per your suggestion
Day 6 – 7 Kyoto (kyoto sightseeing cards?)
Day 8 – Kyoto to Kansai Airport (buy 1days JR west Pass?)
Thank you so much
Hi Servi,
My answers are the following:
1. Tokyo sightseeing
Metro pass may be cheaper. There are several kinds of deal.
http://www.tokyometro.jp/en/ticket/value/airport_bus/index.html
Limousine bus and metro pass combination is available too.
2. Trip to Kyoto from Lake Kawaguchi.
You can go to Mishima by bus and catch Shinkansen. But Shinkansen trains are not very frequent at Mishima. Please see the following link to get a timetable of Shinkansen.
http://english.jr-central.co.jp/info/timetable/_pdf/westbound.pdf
All Nozomi (the fastest train) do not stop at Mishima and most of Hikari (second fastest) do not stop at Mishima either. So you may have to take slow Kodama train.
Nozomi Tokyo-Nagoya less than 2 hours
Kodama Mishima-Nagoya more than 2 hours
That is reason why via Tokyo route is faster than Mishima route. So check the bus timetable to Mishima and Shinkansen. Maybe you can find a good connection.
3. Kyoto and trip to KIX
Kyoto sightseeing card and Kansai Area Pass 1 day are right choice.
Cheers,
Takeshi / JP Rail
Dear Takeshi san,
Greetings from Indonesia.
I would like to seek for ur kind advise for our upcoming itinerary:
Day 1. Arrived Osaka
Day 2. Universal Studio Osaka
Day 3. Osaka – Kyoto – Osaka
Day 4. Osaka – Nara – Osaka
Day 5. Osaka – Tokyo
Day 6. Tokyo sightseeing
Day 7. Disneyland/disneysea
Day 8. Tokyo – Hakone/Gotemba
Day 9. Tokyo – Haneda, return back home.
We are planning to purchase JR pass and activate it on day 3. While during our stay at Osaka, ICOCA will be our option with 2000 yen e money.
Please kindly advise, will it worth to buy JR pass for above itineraries? We might eliminate Nara, if time doesn’t permit.
Thank you for the assistance.
Yoroshiku onegaishimasu
Hi M.Kartini,
JR Pass is not a good option for you. If you want to use JR Pass 7 day, you must have two big transfer, such as Osaka-Tokyo.
ICOCA and Haruka deal is very good. You can use ICOCA, as you think, for the trip to Kyoto or Nara. You can put some more fund into ICOCA if you want. And you can purchase single ticket for Osaka-Tokyo transfer.
When you go to Hakone/Gotemba, you can use Odakyu that is not covered by JR Pass anyway.
http://www.odakyu.jp/english/
By the way, if you want to see Hakone and Gotemba in one day, it will be very tight. There are so many places to see in Hakone.
http://www.hakonenavi.jp/english/traffic/
Cheers,
Takeshi / JP Rail
Takeshi San,
Thank you for the very prompt response. Arigatou gozaimasu.
Re the JR pass, even thou we have return trip from Osaka to Kyoto and Osaka to Nara, still it will not worth for JR Pass?
How bout sightseeing at Tokyo?
What card should we use?
From Tokyo to Disneyland/Disneysea and also from Tokyo to Haneda?
Thanks a lot for the kind assistance and attention.
Yoroshiku onegaishimasu
Hi M Kartini,
Even if you have a trip to Nara and Kyoto, it does not work. Osaka-Kyoto is one way trip is 540 yen, to one way to Nara is 780 yen. You can use it in Tokyo. But it’s same situation. As long as you have one long trip, it does not work. If you want to use JR Pass, you need to have one more long trip, like to Hiroshima or Takayama.
You can use ICOCA in Tokyo. But if you make ICOCA empty in Kansai area, you can get 500 yen refund. You can’t get a refund in Tokyo, because ICOCA is issued by JR West. Please see the details at the following link:
https://jprail.com/travel-informations/other-rail-passes/rail-pass-for-visitors/icoca-and-haruka-ticket-very-flexible-and-good-deal-for-tourist-who-stay-in-kansai.html
Cheers,
Takeshi / JP Rail
Dear Takeshi San,
Thank you for your kind response.
I’ve been researching and found Kansai Thru pass for 3 days. Will this worth for us?
I changed a bit of our itinerary.
Day 1. KIX to Osaka – sightseeing at Osaka
Day 2. Osaka – Kyoto – Osaka
Day 3. Osaka – Kobe – Osaka
For above, will it worth to purchase a 3 days Kansai pass? 5000 yen?
Thank you again, for the kind information
Hi M.Kartini,
I can’t say anything at this point. It depends on how much trips you will have. That means if you will take a train more than 1700 yen worth a day, it will work.
Please see the following:
https://jprail.com/travel-informations/other-rail-passes/rail-pass-for-residents/how-to-use-kansai-thru-pass-compare-pass-and-single-fare.html
https://jprail.com/travel-informations/other-rail-passes/rail-pass-for-residents/kansai-thru-pass-sample-itineraries.html
You have to make detail itinerary and make sure how many trips you will take by train. Otherwise you can’t find which one cheaper is, single fare or Kansai Thru Pass.
Cheers,
Takeshi / JP Rail
Dear Takeshi San,
I had compared my detail itinerary. Checked thru Hyperdia. And u are so true! It is more worth it to combine single tickets for the whole trip.
U saved my dime (^-^)
Thank you so much for ur kind assistance.
Truly appreciate it!
No problem, M.Kartini.
Enjoy your trip!
Cheers,
Takeshi / JP Rail
Hi Takeshi,
I wondered if you may be able to offer any advice on the following itinerary, and if the JR rail pass is necessary?
Many thanks for your help
Nick
Arrive Narita
Spend 4 days in Tokyo
Then 4 days in Hida Takayama
6 days in Kyoto
1 night on Naoshima
3 nights in tokyo
Hi Nick,
I think single fare will be slightly cheaper than 14 days pass. But if you intend to use it when you stay in Takayama and Kyoto, pass will be cheaper. It depends on your itinerary.
You can check the exact fare at Hyperdia.
https://jprail.com/travel-informations/basic-informations/timetable-and-reservation/hyperdia-perfect-guide-train-timetable-and-route-search-engine.html
Cheers,
Takeshi / JP Rail