I have never thought visiting Alpine Route from Tokyo as day trip. But I have received some inquiries and check the timetable. And I found that we can do it.
Actually it is quite easy trip. Please fine the sample itinerary of day trip to Tateyama Kurobe Alpine Route from Tokyo.
From Tokyo to Shinano-Omachi
There are two routes to get the gateway, Ogizawa.
All JR train access
This is the best route for JR pass user all time.
Shinjuku 7:30 – (Limited Express Azusa 3) – Shinano-Omachi 11:03
Shinano-Omachi 11:15 – (Local bus) – 11:55
If you use JR Pass, this route is recommended because Shinjuku to Shinano-Omachi is fully covered by JR Pass. Limited Express Azusa 3 is only train to get Shinano-Omachi directly from Tokyo without any transfers. Limited Express Azusa 1 departs at 7:00, it goes only Matsumoto. You can take a local train to get Shinano-Omachi from Matsumoto. But arrival time is 10:48. You leave 30 minutes early but you can arrive 15 minutes early. Limited Express Azusa 3 is the best choice.
Hokuriku Shinkansen and express bus route
Hokuriku Shinkansen and Express bus can take you to Ogizawa much faster than All JR train access above
Tokyo 6:16 – (Hokuriku Shinkansen Kagayaki 501) – Nagano 7:39
Nagano 7:55 – (Alpico express bus) – Ogizawa 9:40
You have to leave more than 1 hour earlier but you can get Ogizawa more than 2 hours earlier. This route was not recommended for JR pass user because express bus is not covered by JR Pass.
If you use Tateyama Kurobe Option Ticket at 9,000 yen, you can take this express bus.
Tateyama Kurobe Option Ticket (JR East official site)
This deal covers all part of the trip from Nagano to Toyama. And actually this deal is cheaper than even regular fare between Shinano-Omachi and Toyama, 10,850 yen.
The bus service takes you to the gateway, Ogizawa of Kurobe Tateyama Alpine Route directly from Nagano. As I mentioned above, you can get there 2 hours earlier than Limited Express Azusa route. As long as Tateyama Kurobe Option Ticket is on sale, this route is the best way for all travellers.
You can find the timetable and the fare of Alpico Express Bus at the link below:
Alpico Bus Line, Express bus service for Nagano – Omachi, Ogizawa
Travelling on Tateyama Kurobe Alpine Route
Total trip time is about 2 hours for Ogizawa to Tateyama. But you will walk on the trail and enjoy alpine view and fresh air. Official site recommend to spend 6 hours for Ogizawa to Tateyama one way trip. Official site gives you timetable and model course.
Tateyama Kurobe Alpine Route timetable and fare
Model course from Ogizawa to Tateyama
Go back to Tokyo from Toyama
There are many Hokuriku Shinkansen trains to Tokyo. The fastest Hokuriku Shinkansen train “Kagayaki” runs once an hour.
For example, if you start from Ogizawa at 9:40, you will be Toyama around 16:00. You can take the following train.
Toyama 16:58 – (Hokuriku Shinkansen Kagayaki 510) – Tokyo 19:12
Of course, you can stay on Tateyama Kurobe Alpine Route more and take later Hokuriku Shinkansen train.
The last two of Hokuriku Shinkansen trains are the following:
Kanazawa 19:39 – (Hokuriku Shinkansen Kagayaki 516) – Tokyo 22:12
Kanazawa 21:00 – (Hokuriku Shinkansen Kagayaki 518) – Tokyo 23:32
You have 4 extra hours if you take the last train to Tokyo. You can enjoy Toyama and try to eat local cuisine for dinner.
Even if you take All JR trains route (Shinjuku – Shinano-Omachi route), you can reach Toyama around 18:00. You can take these trains very easily.
Now you know how easy to make a day trip to Tateyama Kurobe Alpine Route from Tokyo.
Which way is better, from Ogizawa/Shinano-Omachi or from Toyama?
If you stay Tateyama Kurobe Alpine Route as much as you want, the route from Ogizawa is better. Because Hokuriku Shinkansen runs late night. But if you take the route from Toyama, the last bus to Nagano from Ogizawa is 16:30 departure. You can have a bit more time on Tateyama Kurobe Alpine Route if you start from Ogizawa.
However if you start from Toyama, you can stop at Nagano a little bit. The bus arrive Nagano at 18:10. The last Hokuriku Shikansen train to Tokyo from Nagano depart at 22:08. If you are interested in Nagano, you may start from Toyama. You can visit Zenko-ji temple even in night time. It is open for public 24 hours.
Add Kanazawa if you want to have more
As I explained above, you can reach Toyama around 16:00. If you love to challenge and visit the places as many as you want, you can add Kanazawa. This is not very recommended but it is possible.
Toyama 16:26 – (Hokuriku Shinkansen Hakutaka 565) – Kanazawa 16:48
Kanazawa 21:00 – (Hokuriku Shinkansen Kagayaki 518) – Tokyo 23:32
You have 4 hours in Kanazawa if you are okay in night time. I recommend you to spend more in Kanazaawa. But your schedule is very tight and want to see Kanazawa, this is one of the options.
Suggested deal
Tateyama Kurobe Option Ticket is on sale from April 16 to November 6, 2018. This ticket is valid for 5 days and it is sold at 9,000 yen. You may use this ticket until November 13, 2016. Please see the official site at the link below to find the detailed information.
For other part of this trip, Hokuriku Arch Pass may be the best choice. It covers Tokyo to Nagano, and Toyama to Tokyo.
Japan Rail Pass may be considerable. This covers both Tokyo – Nagano (or Shinjuku – Shinano-Omachi) and Toyama – Tokyo. You cannot get the worth of JR pass by this day trip. But if you have other trip in your trip plan, JR Pass is more convenient and more versatile.
JR East Pass does not cover Toyama. You need to add fare for Toyama – Joetsu-Myoko. The additional fare is 5,630 yen for this segment. If you add this fare on top of JR East Pass at 22,000 yen, it is more expensive than Hokuriku Arch Pass and it is not much different from JR Pass 7 days at 29,100 yen.
If you pay single fare, the total fare is 20,930 yen (Toyama – Tokyo 12,730 yen and Tokyo – Nagano 8,200 yen). Actually this is cheaper than both JR Pass and Hokuriku Arch Pass. But both pass covers local train in Tokyo, Haneda or Narita airport access. You may get the worth by this day trip + some more trips. If you add one more long trip, you can get even 7 days JR Pass.
Don’t forget to check the timetable before you go
The above sample itinerary is built by timetable of September 2015. When you use this sample itinerary, please check the updated timetable.
Alpico Bus Line, Express bus service for Nagano – Omachi, Ogizawa
Tateyama Kurobe Alpine Route timetable and fare
At last, one of my readers, Jonathan gave me his experience of Tateyama Kurobe Alpine Route. Please refer this post about Tateyama Kurobe Alpine Route.
Comments
Hi,Takeshi.
i am going to visit Tateyama from Tokyo on July.
and i will be staying overnight at Toyama before explore Tateyama.
Could you please recommend me the suitable pass from tokyo – dendetsu toyama and nagano – tokyo?
Regards,
Lenny
Hi Lenny,
The most affordable plan is JR East Pass Nagano and Niigata + single fare for Joetsu-Myoko to Toyama that is about 5000 yen (base fare + seat fee).
https://jprail.com/travel-informations/other-rail-passes/rail-pass-for-visitors/jr-east-pass-niigata-and-nagano-flex-5-days-pass-in-14-days-period-to-cover-kanto-region-nagano-and-niigata.html
This pass does not cover Joetsu-Myoko to Toyama on the way to Dentetsu Toyama from Tokyo.
And also you need to add Tateyama Kurobe option ticket.
http://www.jrtateyama.com/e/
Cheers,
Takeshi / JPRail.com
Hi Takeshi,
My family (4 persons) want to visit the Kurabe Alpine Route on 24 June 2016, on the way from Tokyo to Osaka, please inform the best affordable transportation mode. Also I need to know how to deliver our luggages ?
Hi Ary,
If you look for the deal after/before alpine route, there is no deals available. Single fare is the best choice.
You can use Takaya Kurobe option ticket for Toyama to Nagnao.
http://www.jrtateyama.com/e/
But if you have another big trip in Osaka or Tokyo, JR pass may be considerable.
Please see it to get the info about luggage service.
http://www.alpen-route.com/en/transport_new/baggage.html
Cheers,
Takeshi / JPRail.com
Hi Takeshi / JPRail.com,
If I have both a JR East Pass and the The Tateyama Kurobe Option Ticket, will I be able to travel by bullet train from Toyama -Nagano-Tokyo without additional cost?
Hi S B Quek,
Unfortunately no. You need to pay for Toyama to Joetsu-Myoko which is around 5000 yen.
Cheers,
Takeshi / JPRail.com
Hi,
We’ll be in Tokyo Japan this April 16 and wondering for a day trip in Kurobe Tateyama Alpine to see snow (it will be our first time). It will be our last day in Tokyo and we’ll be going to Osaka next. Are there any routes we can get to Kurobe Tateyama Alpine via Osaka for a day trip as well?
Thank you so much!
Hi Felix,
You can do it. You may start from Nagano to visit Alpine route and take Hokuriku Shinkansen from Toyama to Kanazawa, limited express Thunderbird from Kanazawa to Osaka. I have sample itinerary from Osaka. You may get some info access to Osaka after Alpine route.
On Apr 16, that will be the first day of full operation on Alpine route. It will be super super busy there. You have to purchase Tateyama Kurobe option ticket as soon as possible.
http://www.jrtateyama.com/e/
You may not be able to purchase a ticket on the spot.
Cheers,
Takeshi / JPRail.com
Dear Mr Takeshi
I am planning to go to Tateyama Kurobe Alpine Route from Tokyo. May I know which is the cheapest way to go.
Thank you
Hi Elene,
You have only two choices, between Toyama and Shinano-Omachi or between Toyama and Nagano. Shinano-Omachi route is cheaper.
Cheers,
Takeshi / JPRail.com
Hi Mr Takeshi..
Good day
Me and my friend want to plan a backpack trip from osaka-kyoto-tateyama kurobe route-tokyo. Do we possible to have night bus/train from kyoto to toyama (the start point of the kurobe alpine route-if i’m right) and can we buy kurobe alpine route ticket on the spot at the bus/train station? And at shinano omachi station do their have express bus direct to tokyo on evening? To tokyo from omachi station which transport mode if better?
Thank you.
Hi Laini,
Willer provides express bus service and they have English website.
https://willerexpress.com/en/
I think there are many more bus running but most of bus companies do not have English website and I’m not very familiar with overnight bus.
I have no idea about express between Tokyo and Shinano-Omachi. I only know Shinano-Omachi to Nagano bus service.
http://www.alpico.co.jp/access/express/nagano_omachi/#timetable_summer
You may purchase Tateyama Kurobe Alpine route ticket on the spot.
Cheers,
Takeshi / JPRail.com
Hello Takeshi,
I will be in Tokyo in 7/2016.I plan to visit Alpine corridor.I plan to buy Hokuriku arch pass along with Tateyama Kurobe Option ticket.My Hokuriku pass covers transfer from Narita airport to
Tokyo ??or i will need to buy separate ticket.I plan to use shinkansen to go from Tokyo to Toyama.then use the one way Tateyama kurobe option ticket to do the crossing.Is there a Ryokan or hotel to stay near Murodo ??.then end the trip in NAGANO & FLY BACK FROM Narita on 4/8/2016.Will i be able to use my pass to go from Tokyo station to Narita ??
Hi Kay,
You can use Tokyo-Osaka Hokuriku Arch Pass for Narita-Tokyo segment.
There are several hotels and lodges around Murodo area. I have never stayed there so I cannot recommend any hotels there. Just google it and you will find it.
Cheers,
Takeshi / JPRail.com
Takeshi which kind of train one can use with Hokuriku JR RAIL PASS FOR AIRPORT TRANSFER FROM TOKYO TO NARITA INTERNATIONAL
AIRPORT??
Hi Kay,
Please see the links below:
https://jprail.com/travel-informations/other-rail-passes/rail-pass-for-visitors/tokyo-osaka-hokuriku-arch-pass-user-guide-clarify-valid-trains-coverage-area-and-compare-single-fare-and-pass.html#Valid_trains_and_lines
https://jprail.com/trains/sort-by-type/limited-express/narita-express.html
Cheers,
Takeshi / JPRail.com
Takeshi san,
I am planning to take Kagayaki shinkansen to Nagano from Ueno station at 6:22 A.M.I am staying at Narita EXCEL TOKYU HOTEL near Narita airport & not sure which local or express train i can take near my hotel or from the airport around 5 A.M. ?? I plan to take Seseragi-go bus from Nagano to KamiKochi.
Hi Kay,
Unfortunately there is no way (either train or bus) to get Tokyo or Ueno from Narita by 6:22. Train and bus will start to run from Narita around 7:00 am.
If you want to take this train, you have to get Tokyo or Ueno one day before.
Cheers,
Takeshi / JPRail.com
Dear Takeshi-san,
Is it possible to your knowledge to buy passes for the Alpine Route online? We’ll be landing in Tokyo on the 23rd April but am afraid I won’t find any at the airport if they sell out too quickly…:) Are there usually passes available later on, too?
Many thanks,
Silvia
Hi Silvia san,
You cannot purchase it online but not sold out. You can purchase it after you arrive in Japan.
http://www.jrtateyama.com/e/
Cheers,
Takeshi / JPRail.com
Hi Jprail,
I’m going to Japan alps route on 16 April which is the first day it operate fully.
I’ve found in it official website that Tateyama Kurobe Option Ticket will start selling again on 16 April 2016.
Source: http://www.jrtateyama.com/e/
Could I buy this option ticket along with JR Pass?
As you mentioned in this article, option ticket is offered to JR East holders only, but in its website, they’re noted as following.
“The Tateyama Kurobe Option Ticket is on sale for a limited time as an optional ticket for passengers with any JR Pass (for example, the Hokuriku Arch Pass) for travel to the Tateyama Kurobe Alpine Route.”
Best Regards,
Mhai
Hi Mhai,
You can purchase it with JR pass. The condition of this season pass is different from the last year. In this year, JR West will sell this pass too and there is no restriction to use this pass.
Cheers,
Takeshi / JPRail.com
Dear Takeshi san,
Thank you for your reply.
I’m so glad to hear that i can buy the ticket with discounted price!!!
Best Regards
Mhai
Hi Mhai san,
Thank you very much for providing the updated info. I could update this info!
Enjoy your trip.
Cheers,
Takeshi / JPRail.com
Hi Takeshi,
I just check Hyperdia, and I wonder can I use JR pass from Takaoka to Shinimamiya? Refer to Hyperdia, from Takaoka to Kanazawa, I can take JR and Shinkansen Tsurugi, but from Kanazawa to Osaka, I need to take LTD. EXP THUNDERBIRD 34. Is it cover by JR Pass?
Thank you in advance.
Hi Dee,
Those are full covered.
https://jprail.com/destinations/chubu-area/takayama-kanazawa-and-shirakawago/how-to-get-kanazawa.html
https://jprail.com/travel-informations/tips-for-japan-rail-pass/guide-to-take-trains-in-osaka-how-to-choose-the-best-route-by-train-to-get-the-major-spots.html
Cheers,
Takeshi / JPRail.com