Access to Takayama and Hida from Nagoya. Limited Express Wide View Hida

Wide View Hida (Nagoya-Takayama-Toyama) is connected with Shinakansen at Nagoya.
Wide View Hida (Nagoya-Takayama-Toyama) is connected with Shinakansen at Nagoya.

Wide View Hida is a Limited Express train that is operated from Nagoya (名古屋) to Toyama (富山) via Gifu (岐阜), Gero (下呂) and one of the most popular destination, Takayama (高山). Hida is the name of the old prefecture in Samurai period. This train equip very huge windows. It can offer to passengers very panoramic view. That is why this train is called “Wide View”.

This train is very popular for the tourists from overseas. Of course this train is fully covered by Japan Rail Pass. So let’s see the details.

Route, schedule and trip time

We have 4 round trips between Nagoya and Toyama, 1 round trip between Nagoya and Hidafurukawa (飛騨古川), and 5 round trips between Nagoya and Takayama. Trains depart from Nagoya almost every one hour in daytime. And also we have one more round trip between Osaka (大阪) and Takayama via Gifu and Gero. As of March 2017, the timetable is the following:

Osaka 08:02 -> Takayama 12:23
Takayama 15:35 -> Osaka 19:50

This train departing from Osaka is combined with the train from Nagoya at Gifu. It takes 2 hours and 30 minutes to get Takayama from Nagoya and 4 hours to get Toyama from Nagoya.


View Hida in a larger map

Stations

Station Depart from Nagoya Depart from Osaka
Osaka (大阪) x
Shin-Osaka (新大阪) x Kyoto (京都) x Kusatsu (草津) x Maibara (米原) x Ogaki (大垣) x Nagoya (名古屋) x Owari-Ichinomiya (尾張一宮) * Gifu (岐阜) x x Unuma (鵜沼) * * Mino-Ohta (美濃太田) x x Shirakawaguchi (白川口) * * Hida-Kanayama (飛騨金山) * * Gero (下呂) x x Hida-Hagiwara (飛騨萩原) * x Hida-Osaka (飛騨小坂) * * Kuguno (久々野) * * Takayama (高山) x x Hida-Furukawa (飛騨古川) x Inotani (猪谷) x Etchu-Yatsuo (越中八尾) x Hayahoshi (速星) * Toyama (富山) x

x:All train stop *:some train stop

Accommodation

2+1 seat configuration Green seat is at the front of the formation, car#10. (C) Sonic Rail Garden
2+1 seat configuration Green seat is at the front of the formation, car#10. (C) Sonic Rail Garden

Wide View Hida is serviced by KIHA-85 series. This train has a great reputation. The huge glass windows gives you the spectacular scenery along Takyama line. “Wide View” is a worthy of the name.

This series has two types of Green car that are 2+2 seat configuration and 2+1 seat configuration. 2+1 seat configuration is wider and has a bigger leg space. The seat pitch is 1160mm on 2+2 seat configuration and 1250mm on 2+1 seat configuration. 1160mm is the standard. So 2+1 seat gives you a great deal! If you want to take this seat, try to reserved a seat on car#10. 2+2 Green car is always at the middle of the train. 2+1 is always at the front of the formation. And also Ordinary class is good too. The seat pitch is 1000mm. This is bigger than the standard.

When you take this train at Nagoya, the seat is set with the back toward. Because this train change the direction at Gifu. It takes only 20 minutes from Nagoya to Gifu. So you don’t need to change your seat.

*Sonic Rail Garden has copyright for all images of accommodations below.

Train formation

1 2 3 4 8 9 10
R R G NR R R NR G

Car#1-4 operate from Nagoya to Takayama/Hida-furukawa, Car#8-10 operate from Nagoya to Toyama

1 2 3 8 9 10
R NR R R NR G

Car#1-3 operate from Nagoya to Takayama/Hida-furukawa, Car#8-10 operate from Nagoya to Toyama

1 2 3 4
R R G NR R
1 2 3 5 6 7 8
R NR R R R G NR R

This formation is used for Osaka departure and Nagoya departure combination. It is connected at Gifu station.

Images

Green seat 2+2 configuration
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Green seat 2+1 configuration
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Ordinary seat
Wide View Hida KIHA85 series Ordinary seat Wide View Hida KIHA85 series Ordinary seat Wide View Hida KIHA85 series Ordinary seat Wide View Hida KIHA85 series Ordinary seat Wide View Hida KIHA85 series Ordinary seat

Sanitary space
Wide View Hida KIHA85 series sanitary space Wide View Hida KIHA85 series sanitary space Wide View Hida KIHA85 series sanitary space Wide View Hida KIHA85 series sanitary space Wide View Hida KIHA85 series sanitary space Wide View Hida KIHA85 series sanitary space Wide View Hida KIHA85 series sanitary space Wide View Hida KIHA85 series sanitary space

389 thoughts on “Access to Takayama and Hida from Nagoya. Limited Express Wide View Hida”

    1. Hi Kevin,

      Car #1 is rear end of all trains. But this car is non reserved seat car. You cannot reserve your seat in this car. It’s the first come first serve basis.
      Car #4 of Hida 1 is the front end and this is reserved seat car. You can reserve your seat. The front end of Hida 3 and 11 is Green car. You cannot use this car by JR pass ordinary. Car #3 of Hida 25 is the front end until Gifu. Other train set comes from Nagoya and those are coupled at Gifu. After Gifu, car #3 does not have any view.

      Cheers,

      Takeshi / JPRail.com

  1. When we visit Japan in mid November, our travelling plan is:
    Nagoya >> Takayama >> Kanazawa >> Tokyo

    We’ll purchase nation-wide 7-day Japan Railway Pass on Green Car. Before we arrive at Japan, are we able to reserve the seats online right after the JR Passes are purchased?

    Thank you.

  2. Dear Takeshi,

    Wewill take the flight from Hong Kong to Nagoya on 16 November 2017. The arrival time at Nagoya airport will be at 15:35, so how can we to catch the train from Nagoya to Gero? Hida Express No.17??

    Thanks.

    Ben

    Thanks.

    Regards,

    Lau Yam Ting

  3. Hi.

    We are planning to see Takayama on winter of 2017, around January 21-26. Just want to ask if these routes are covered by a JP rail pass?

    1. Nagoya to Takayama via wide view Hida
    2. Takayama to Nagoya via wide view Hida
    3. Nagoya to Tokyo via Shinkansen
    4. Tokyo to Nagoya via Shinkansen

    Thank you very much

  4. Hi Takeshi-san,

    May I know if I can buy the ticket for Limited Express Wide View Hida to Nagoya at Takayama station ?
    Also, is there an area in the train where I can put my luggage ?

    Thank you,
    Zul

  5. We are planning a 1 way roundtrip from Nagoya to Takayama in a group of 12 adults on the 22 Nov 2016. We would like to seek your assistance to advice us what is the most economical way to travel from Nagoya to Takayama eg. JR Train / Express Bus.
    I was told that there is a special JR Hidaji Free Kippu tickets for group of 4 passenger, is it still available? How much is the cost?
    Would appreciate if you can also provide us with the link/website to make the necessary reservations.
    Thanks

    1. Hi Lawrence,

      Hidaji Free Kippu is available.

      30650 yen for 4 passengers includes round trip ticket by limited express train reserved seat, Takayama-Shirkawagou nobi bus round trip (or ticket to Shin-Hotaka), and some discount at shops and attraction.

      26390 yen for 4 passengers includes round trip ticket by limited express train reserved seat, 6000 yen taxi voucher, and some discount at shops and attraction. (6000 yen is per ground not per person)

      This deal is introduced in Japanese site only. I put Japanese link just in case.
      http://railway.jr-central.co.jp/tickets/hida/

      You cannot make a reservation in advance. You have to purchase this deal in JR Nagoya station and then you can book a train. Your group is a big so you may not be able to book seats together.

      Cheers,

      Takeshi / JPRail.com

      1. Thanks for the information on the Hidaji Furii Kippu Pass. But what is the difference between a and b options:
        a. 30650 yen for 4 passengers includes round trip ticket by limited express train reserved seat, Takayama-Shirkawagou nobi bus round trip (or ticket to Shin-Hotaka), and some discount at shops and attraction.
        b. 26390 yen for 4 passengers includes round trip ticket by limited express train reserved seat, 6000 yen taxi voucher, and some discount at shops and attraction. (6000 yen is per ground not per person)
        Can the above tickets be bought at Chubu International Airport?

        1. Hi Lawrence,

          If you take (a), you can get Shirakawago by bus. If you take (b), you can get a chartered taxi but 6000 yen is not enough to get Shirakawago. Basically it allows you to see Takayama only.
          You cannot purchase it at Chubu airport. You need to get Nagoya station to buy this pass.

          Cheers,

          Takeshi / JPRail.com

  6. Dear Takeshi-san,

    Yet another October Takayama visit! Travelling from Nagano to Takayama early in the morning on the 17th October and then intending to take the Hida Wide view #36 train at 15:35 to Kyoto. A few questions:
    1. I had a look on hyperdia, and it didn’t give the option for Green class on either the Takayama>Gifu or Gifu>Kyoto trip. I thought Green Class should be available on both. Can yo please confirm? Also, can we stay in our seats at Gifu?

    2. How far in advance should we book our green class tickets for that day?

    3. Which side of the train will give us the best views on the Takayama > Kyoto trip?

    Looking forward to your reply.

    Kind Regards,

    Elke

    1. Hi Elke san,

      1. This train (Wide View Hida #36) is 7 cars formation. 3 of 7 (car #1 to #3) cars go to Osaka and another 4 (car #4 to #7) cars go to Nagoya. All cars combined between Takayama and Gifu, and 3 cars and 4 cars are uncoupled at Gifu.
      Green car is available but it’s car #6. It’s not in cars to Osaka. If you want to take Green seat, you can take only Takayama to Gifu. And you have to change the cars at Gifu. If you are okay with ordinary seat, you can stay same seat from Takayama to Osaka.

      2. I usually book a ticket right after I arrive in Japan. There is no online booking available. Nobody can guess how busy it will be. So try to book as soon as possible.

      3. I recommend you to take left side.

      Cheers,

      Takeshi / JPRail.com

      1. Thank you so much Takeshi-san.

        Good to know about green class issue with the Hida #36.

        If we would prefer green, would it be better to book the Hida #16 to Nagoya followed by the Hikari 479? And how hard would it be to go from platform 3 to platform 16 at Nagoya train station? There seem to be only 9 mins between arrival and departure, so a bit worried. We are first time Japan travellers and will have luggage…

        Kind Regards

        Elke

        1. Hi Elke san,

          Wide View Hida and Hikari is better than direct service to Osaka by Wide View Hida if you prefer to have green seat.
          9 minutes is tight. It’s not impossible but you have to understand the structure of Nagoya station. Please see the link below:
          http://jprail.com/travel-informations/basic-informations/station-information/nagoya-station-guide-how-to-transfer-among-shinkansen-kintetsu-meitetsu-subway-and-jr-local-trains.html

          Cheers,

          Takeshi / JPRail.com

          1. Thank you very much for the reply. The website has been really handy as well with all the links, maps, pictures, videos and sample trips. Very informative!

            Kind Regards

            Elke

  7. I am arriving in Nagoya International Airport on 9th Nov at around 8.40am.

    I’m travelling to from Nagoya airport to Hida Fukukawa Station via on 9th Nov using the JR Pass. Can you advise the fastest route via JR limited express & normal train if we were to depart from Nagoya international airport around 9.45am? Thanks.

    1. Hi Connie,

      The fastest route is taking Meitetsu railway from airport to Nagoya and taking Wide View Hida from Nagoya to Hida-Furukawa. But most of Wide View Hida go to Takayama. You may need to change the trains at Takayama. You may find the schedule at Hyperdia:
      http://jprail.com/travel-informations/basic-informations/timetable-and-reservation/hyperdia-perfect-guide-train-timetable-and-route-search-engine.html

      Cheers,

      Takeshi / JPRail.com

  8. Aloha,
    I am arriving in Japan on October 8, 2016 at 22:05 (Haneda). I am staying in Shinagawa 1 night upon arrival. I have purchased the 7 Day JR Rail Pass (Green Car) and I have my voucher. I depart Shinagawa for Takayama the following day on 10-9-16. I have reservations for 6 nights at Hidatei Hanaougi and Hodakaso Sanganoyu in Takayama and Hirayu area). My concern is that the trains (Hidatei Ltd. Express Wide View) will be sold out. I’m unable to reserve seats due to my late arrival in Haneda. Realistically, could all the trains from Nagoya to Takayama be sold out? I’m worried. Thank you!

      1. Aloha Takeshi,
        Thank you for your speedy response!
        I look forward to my upcoming trip to Japan, especially knowing that most likely seats will be available to my destination.
        Mahalo & Cheers!
        Roberta K.

  9. Hi Takeshi!

    I’m travelling to Takayama on October 9 using the JR Pass. I will be travelling that day from Tokyo to Osaka early in the morning to leave our luggage at the Osaka station (since our check-in at the Airbnb apartment we rented in Osaka is still after 4 pm) and will be travelling to Nara afterwards to visit Nara Park. Then probably after lunch, we’ll head to Takayama for the evening autumn festival at 9 in the evening.

    How do we travel from Nara to Takayama? Would you recommend that we take Nara to Nagoya then Nagoya to Takayama via the Limited Express Wide View Hida? What time is the last trip from Takayama to Nagoya and the last trip from Nagoya to Osaka? Is it still possible to ride a train even after we watch the Evening Autumn Festival?

    Thank you so much!

    1. Hi Pauline,

      Your route is the following:
      Nara (Local or rapid train) Kyoto
      Kyoto (Shinkansen) Nagoya
      Nagoya (Wide View Hida) Takayama

      Roughly it take 4.5 hours. If you go to Takayama from Nara after lunch, you will be Takayama around 17:00 or 18:00. However the last train to Nagoya from Takayama is 18:46 from Takayama. If you want to see night festival, you have to stay in Takayama.

      Unfortunately your plan is not feasible. And also it’s very very hard to find the hotel in Takayama during this event. I think most of hotels are full.

      Cheers,

      Takeshi / JPRail.com

      1. Thank you Takeshi for that information! I might as well change my itinerary!

        What time will the last train depart from Takayama to Nagoya? It seems I will no longer include the Autumn Evening Festival in my itinerary. I might as well travel from Nagoya to Takayama early morning and see the Karakuki performance at 12PM. Do you think it is still feasible to have a short day trip to Takayama, so just to see the festival? I probably wont have enough time to tour around the area anymore.

        Thank you! 🙂

        1. Hi Pauline,

          There is one more train available that depart at 19:47. But this is a local train and you have to change trains twice at Mino-Ota and Gifu on the way to Nagoya. You can get Nagoya but you cannot go back to Kyoto or Osaka because you will reach Nagoya almost midnight.

          I don’t think this is a right choice for your trip.

          If you visit Takayama in daytime, it will work.

          Cheers,

          Takeshi / JPRail.com

      2. Hi Takeshi san,
        Five of us will be arriving at Nagoya International Airport at 16:20 on 17th December 2016. Will we able to catch the Wide View Train to Takayama? Do we have to book train tickets in advance? What time is the last train from Nagoya to Takamaya? How far is the train station from Nagoya Airport?

        1. Hi Catherine san,

          19:43 departure is the last one from Nagoya. As long as flight arrive on time, it will be okay. Please see the links below to find the info about airport and Nagoya station:
          http://jprail.com/sample-itineraries/airport-access/chubu-ngo/chubu-nagoya-airport-transportation-guide-find-info-about-airport-station-and-access-to-nagoya.html
          http://jprail.com/travel-informations/basic-informations/station-information/nagoya-station-guide-how-to-transfer-among-shinkansen-kintetsu-meitetsu-subway-and-jr-local-trains.html

          You cannot book a ticket in advance. You have to book it at Nagoya station before you take Wide View Hida. I think you will be fine to get a seat but there is no way other than purchasing at the station.

          Cheers,

          Takeshi / JPRail.com

          1. Hi Takeshi-san,

            Thank you for your speedy response.
            Is taking Wide View Hida the fastest way to reach Takayama Station from Nagoya Centrair Airport? If I take the last train at Nagoya means I will reach Takayama around 22:00, am I right?
            Is Wide View Hida train at JR Nagoya Station?

          2. Hi Catherine san,

            You can take an express bus but trip time is not much different.
            https://www.nouhibus.co.jp/english/highwaybus/nagoya.pdf

            If you need a transfer to only Takayama, this express bus is way cheaper than Wide View Hida. But if you have any other trip than Takayama, you have to consider about whole part of trip. Otherwise you cannot compare.

            Both wide view Hida and express bus depart from Nagoya station. Meitetsu bus terminal is just step away from Nagoya station. You can find the info at the link I gave you in previous reply. So you need to go to Nagoya station from the airport first anyway.

            Cheers,

            Takeshi / JPRail.com

          3. Hi Takeshi San,
            I am a little confused here.
            Our flight will be arriving Chubu Airport at 16:20 on 17th Dec. We want to go from Nagoya Station to Takamaya Station. Are the bus stations near the train stations? The link you gave for reserving the bus ticket from Nagoya only have telephone number. Is there any website to reserve train tickets? Where to purchase the bus tickets? Will the bus travel time be affected by weather?

            If we choose to take train from Nagoya Station to Takamaya Station after arriving at Chubu Airport at 16:20, how do we go? What is the fastest and most economical train from Chubu airport–Nagoya station- Takamaya station and what are the fares?
            Thank you.

            Regards
            Catheine

          4. Hi Catheine san,

            Please see the link below to find the info about Chubu airport and Nagoya station. You will find all info about access to Nagoya and bus station info:
            http://jprail.com/sample-itineraries/airport-access/chubu-ngo/chubu-nagoya-airport-transportation-guide-find-info-about-airport-station-and-access-to-nagoya.html
            http://jprail.com/travel-informations/basic-informations/station-information/nagoya-station-guide-how-to-transfer-among-shinkansen-kintetsu-meitetsu-subway-and-jr-local-trains.html

            You cannot book online for Nagoya-Takayama bus line. You have to make a call.
            https://www.nouhibus.co.jp/english/highwaybus/nagoya.pdf

            If you take a train, please find the fare and schedule at hyperdia:
            http://jprail.com/travel-informations/basic-informations/timetable-and-reservation/hyperdia-perfect-guide-train-timetable-and-route-search-engine.html

            But the bus is cheaper. When it’s snowing, bus may be late. But train may be late too.

            Cheers,

            Takeshi / JPRail.com

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